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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silent croak. It's ok since others can't reproduce the problem I think this must be a result of a bad pull from the servers. I'll try again and test the new bootstrap script.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, lack of feedback... good or bad? I assume bad :cry:

I haven't talked to infinitycircuit on his status, but no one else i've talked to has experienced the mtab error (or any boot error i know of for that matter)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fresh reinstall fixed it up for me. I don't know if it was the new bootstrap or if I just got unlucky with my downloads the first time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working great here, thanks for the guide!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm, lack of feedback... good or bad? I assume bad :cry:


I tried creating a build environment in chroot for an epia box I am about to order. It crashed during bootstrap. I am not sure if building packages with CFLAGS my current CPU does not support (still same arch - x86) is correct. Therefore neither I posted feedback on it.

If anyone can tell me please if compiling with unavailable CFLAGS on the same arch is possible, I will give it a try soon afterwards. Otherwise I will have to wait unfortunately for mid-July when my exams and the holiday leave later on are over.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well..am installing over here..will update asap I'm done installing it :D
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If anyone can tell me please if compiling with unavailable CFLAGS on the same arch is possible, [...]


Yes, that works. If it crashes, that wouldn't likely be the reason.

Update: This guide inspired me to give reiser4 with lzo compression a shot. I'm very impressed. Feels like it reads data twice as fast from my disc compared to ext3. I also repartitioned my drive and made /tmp, /var and /usr/portage links to a separate partition (=separate from root), which was not a bad descision either.

Just one thing though: Zen-sources and mm-sources come with some minor annoyances. Does anyone know how/if I can selectively include the reiser4 stuff from mm into gentoo-sources? Hitchhiker-sources sounds nice, but the download link gives me a 404.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Cheater1034, :o

Hope you dont mind me asking this, why didnt you use LDFLAGS like you always do in your previous guides?

Currently, I'm using this for my system.

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LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu"


How good or bad will it affect my system performance? :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Testing it now, did however run into a small qt-sql problem meaning it wouldn't compile, using the newest qt snapshot did the trick. Heres hoping it will end up being somewhat stable regardless of that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Testing it now, did however run into a small qt-sql problem meaning it wouldn't compile, using the newest qt snapshot did the trick. Heres hoping it will end up being somewhat stable regardless of that.


I had the same problem, and i fixed it but i forgot how I did it. I thought i got a patch that was floating around on the internet but It's not in my overlay. Snapshot seems like a good solution, i'm getting tempted to upload my overlay with all the kde4 stuff and what not (because i had to edit the svn ebuilds to fix plasma and stuff)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheater1034,

1.the function of bootstrap is actually to build a toolchain is it?
2. how does it differ from emwrap.sh?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just one thing though: Zen-sources and mm-sources come with some minor annoyances. Does anyone know how/if I can selectively include the reiser4 stuff from mm into gentoo-sources? Hitchhiker-sources sounds nice, but the download link gives me a 404.

Well there's a standalone reiser4-for-2.6.25.patch which should work OK (it does for me :) ), or the one from -mm if you'd like to live on the edge :), differences are small.
There's also an ebuild here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Reiser4_With_Gentoo-Sources
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cheater1034,

1.the function of bootstrap is actually to build a toolchain is it?
2. how does it differ from emwrap.sh?


1.) Yes it is
2.) I'm not too sure what emwrap.sh is?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@cheater1034

Code:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-610850-highlight-seren.html


If you look at step six, you will get the link to download it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@cheater1034

Code:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-610850-highlight-seren.html


If you look at step six, you will get the link to download it.


Hmm, i read up on it a bit. I've never heard of it or used it. I guess it's a script for managing and rebuilding the toolkit.

i would say it's very similar to a bootstrap, though the boostrap script is ancient and originates from the first releases of gentoo.

The main difference i will tell you is that emwrap.sh is for TC/world/system maintenance, bootstrap.sh is NOTm rather for an initial build of the TC, and any and all updates would be done manually.

For example, say gcc 4.4 came out, but you have gcc 4.3 and want 4.4, you couldn't just emerge -auD world, you'd have to emerge the toolkit, gcc-select, unmerge the old one, re-build the toolkit again, and emerge -e world.

The script looks like it basically just does all of this for you depending on the options you select, if you attempt to update the TC with boostrap you will fail :D

Code:
        emwrap.sh  prints help.
        emwrap.sh -wuDbp Checks for updates to the TC and in the world.
        emwrap.sh -wuDt==>  emerge world -uD and only does TC update if any.
        emwrap.sh -wuDb==> updates, if any, the TC and then the world files.
        emwrap.sh -f{other flags} will fetch the files for you.
        emwrap.sh system -uDN==> emerge system -uDN, update deep newuse
        emwrap.sh -Sb1==> emerge system -e build TC once and then system files


Looks like the last option is kind of like a bootstrap, but i don't understand the wording (maybe a lack of punctuation lol), i see it was "emerge -e system" "emerge *toolkit" "emerge -e system", idk the terminology is pretty confusing and i'm probably wrong because the way i typed doesnt make any sense.

I was not around during the seren install actually, that was my down time i guess you could call it. I actually haven't seen seren in awhile :?
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Has a whole bunch of goodies including, 2.6.26-rc5-mm3 (tons of hot-fixes, probably like 10 including the lru page rework), rmh said he had a hard lock on -rc5-mm3, but was happy to report it was fixed in -rc5-zenmm (due to the hot-fixes.

Others include fbcondecor, tp_smapi, usb mouse polling, config_nr_tty, daconfig, bfq, btrfs, squashfs

git summary: http://zen-sources.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=kernel-mm.git;a=summary

Has been built with allyesconfig, and allmodconfig on my box. And it has been booted and operated successfully on 4 x86 boxes that I know of including myself, and it has booted and been operating successfully on 1 amd64 box I know. Get it from git if you're interested, lockless and such is nice to have from -mm
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git clone git://zen-sources.org/zen/kernel-mm.git zenmm-sources


Nvidia users will need to get the patched nvidia-drivers ebuild out of the zen-overlay which is in layman, and they will need to unmask the 177* version. (patch will work with 171-173 as well if you edit the ebuild yourself)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for giving me a better understanding of it..The kernel is in zen-overlay? Cause I'm sure that some of us use layman like me myself..
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks for giving me a better understanding of it..The kernel is in zen-overlay? Cause I'm sure that some of us use layman like me myself..


No, you have to get the kernel from git, the patched ebuild for nvidia-drivers (required for -mm or -zenmm + nvidia) is in the zen-overlay in layman.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: |~| CONRAD |~| Stage 1 on 72 "Eins/Uno/One" IN Reply with quote

Ok, I found this interesting and I'm currently installing Gentoo this way ;)

So far I encountered two mistakes in your guide:

cheater1034 wrote:
5.2 - Downloading and Extracting a Portage Snapshot
Code:
# wget http://gentoo.osuosl.org/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.lzma
# unlzma portage-latest.tar.bz2
# tar -cxf portage-latest.tar -C /mnt/gentoo/usr

I suppose the ~x86 tar is different, after emerge -e system a .tar.lzma can be extracted with the single command: tar --lzma -xvf file.tar.lzma

portage-latest.tar.bz2 does not exist -> portage-latest.tar.lzma?
tar -cxf portage-latest.tar -C /mnt/gentoo/usr -> c and x won't work, maybe you meant vxf?


Additionally I used my favorite way to compile stuff.. ;)
http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speeding_up_portage_with_tmpfs
Though I can't say how this works on systems with fewer Ram since my Notebook has 3GB of Ram and I usually mount a tmpfs of 2GB.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: |~| CONRAD |~| Stage 1 on 72 "Eins/Uno/One" IN Reply with quote

Strayer wrote:
Ok, I found this interesting and I'm currently installing Gentoo this way ;)

So far I encountered two mistakes in your guide:

cheater1034 wrote:
5.2 - Downloading and Extracting a Portage Snapshot
Code:
# wget http://gentoo.osuosl.org/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.lzma
# unlzma portage-latest.tar.bz2
# tar -cxf portage-latest.tar -C /mnt/gentoo/usr

I suppose the ~x86 tar is different, after emerge -e system a .tar.lzma can be extracted with the single command: tar --lzma -xvf file.tar.lzma

portage-latest.tar.bz2 does not exist -> portage-latest.tar.lzma?
tar -cxf portage-latest.tar -C /mnt/gentoo/usr -> c and x won't work, maybe you meant vxf?


Additionally I used my favorite way to compile stuff.. ;)
http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speeding_up_portage_with_tmpfs
Though I can't say how this works on systems with fewer Ram since my Notebook has 3GB of Ram and I usually mount a tmpfs of 2GB.


Thanks, it has been fixed ;) tmpfs certainly will speed it up, but i'm not so sure of mounting that much of my ram :X (i have 2gb, and i like to use all of it ;))
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried your guide in chroot but get stuck at this point

Quote:
* CHOST, please set your CHOST using: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml

Code:
emerge -av1 binutils gcc glibc

--skipped--

checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking build system compiler gcc... yes
checking for build system preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for build system executable suffix...
checking whether build system compiler is ANSI... yes
checking for build system compiler math library... -lm
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gpp... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-aCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-CC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cxx... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cc++... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cl... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-FCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-KCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-RCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-xlC_r... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-xlC... no
checking for g++... no
checking for c++... no
checking for gpp... no
checking for aCC... no
checking for CC... no
checking for cxx... no
checking for cc++... no
checking for cl... no
checking for FCC... no
checking for KCC... no
checking for RCC... no
checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking C++ compiler g++  -march=i686 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer... no
configure: error: C++ compiler not available, see config.log for details

!!! Please attach the following file when seeking support:
!!! /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/gmp-4.2.2-r1/work/gmp-4.2.2/config.log
config.log
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: |~| CONRAD |~| Stage 1 on 72 "Eins/Uno/One" IN Reply with quote

cheater1034 wrote:
Thanks, it has been fixed ;) tmpfs certainly will speed it up, but i'm not so sure of mounting that much of my ram :X (i have 2gb, and i like to use all of it ;))


I only use it for compiling and unmount it afterwards - I also like to use my Ram ;)

So... I've completed the install and I'm currently setting up KDE4.
But:
Your KDE4 Description did not work for me at all... The keywords/unmask-Files didn’t work, things were still masked, etc.
Maybe it's because I did not want to install kde-svn but kde-4.1, maybe because I imported the Repository via layman (though it is essentially the same command...), whatever... ;)

This for example will not work:
Code:
emerge -avt kdelibs kdebase kdegames kdemultimedia kdeartwork kdeutils kdetoys kdenetwork dragonplayer

...it wanted to pull KDE 3.5 (by the way: Why kdelibs? It's a dependency anyway and will just clutter up the world file)
Also: Why not the meta-Packages?
I would (and did) emerge kde-4.1 this way: emerge -av kdebase-meta:kde-4.1

Nevertheless I gave up and removed all keyword/unmask files, read the documentation within the repository and started over, now it's working ;)

Also, before all the X stuff: (this is a little bit unsorted, I'm writing down what I actually remember ;) )
zen-sources did not work for me, there was a very strange error with my Broadcom NIC (b44), it spammed my dmesg with something like "eth0: powering down PHY" whenever it was active. Also I found the git-stuff veeery confusing :/ I like my SVN-Repositories ;)
I checked out the berkano overlay using layman and installed hitchhiker Sources (gentoo-sources with some udf stuff and reiser4)

Next thing:
Code:
title ~Conrad~ Stage1 on 72 | 2.6.26-rc6-zen1
root (hd0,3)
# No widescreen resolutions, they don't work :(
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-rc6-zen1 root=/dev/md0 video=uvesafb:1280x1024-32@60,ywrap,mtrr splash=silent,theme:livecd-2007.0 quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
initrd /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2007.0

I use uvesafb here and widescreen does work for me (1440x900).
But because of the forum layout the splash= line was pushed beneath the kernel line - I realized that the splash will only work if it's in the same line like the kernel... bad bad forum :P
Also I didn't understood why you installed fbcondecor so cumbersome... I just enabled all the kernel options and emerged the packages. Maybe it's a zen-thingy ;)

Quote:
and on top of that the biggest possible resolution is 1280x1024, that sucks

I have maaaany resolutions here:
Code:
layer ~ # ls /etc/splash/livecd-2007.0/
1024x768.cfg  1280x1024.cfg  1280x800.cfg  1366x768.cfg   1600x1200.cfg  1920x1200.cfg  icons   scripts         Vera.ttf
1152x864.cfg  1280x720.cfg   1280x854.cfg  1400x1050.cfg  1680x1050.cfg  640x480.cfg    images  temp
1152x900.cfg  1280x768.cfg   1280x960.cfg  1440x900.cfg   1920x1080.cfg  800x600.cfg    README  Vera.copyright


Next thing:
You forgot to set up /etc/conf.d/hwclock ;)

Next thing:
emerge -e system worked without a flaw for me, but the netkit-rsh ebuild didn't work... (though it wasn't in the emerge -e system, but in the emerge xorg-server I did later)
I fetched a complete ebuild from here, then it worked.
The ACPI ebuild did work for me.


My system is now booting correctly, X starts and everything works as expected. I hope the bits I shared here will help :)
Thanks a lot for this guide, I like it! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tried your guide in chroot but get stuck at this point

Quote:
* CHOST, please set your CHOST using: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml

Code:
emerge -av1 binutils gcc glibc

--skipped--

checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking build system compiler gcc... yes
checking for build system preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for build system executable suffix...
checking whether build system compiler is ANSI... yes
checking for build system compiler math library... -lm
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gpp... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-aCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-CC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cxx... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cc++... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cl... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-FCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-KCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-RCC... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-xlC_r... no
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-xlC... no
checking for g++... no
checking for c++... no
checking for gpp... no
checking for aCC... no
checking for CC... no
checking for cxx... no
checking for cc++... no
checking for cl... no
checking for FCC... no
checking for KCC... no
checking for RCC... no
checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking C++ compiler g++  -march=i686 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer... no
configure: error: C++ compiler not available, see config.log for details

!!! Please attach the following file when seeking support:
!!! /var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/gmp-4.2.2-r1/work/gmp-4.2.2/config.log
config.log


The bootstrap script corrects this, simply emerge -av binutils gcc glibc will not work.

It has to build a couple of packages (ex. gmp) with USE="nocxx", then of course it rebuilds them at the end as it rebuilds the rest of the toolkit WITHOUT that use flag.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

just wanted to report, that i got stuck at the same problem as above while running the bootstrap-script. (in a linux32 chroot on amd64)
Can't give any more logs as i am redoing everything right now (maybe i missed sth...).
will report back tomorrow morning...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
WARNING: repository at /usr/portage/local/layman/openoffice-geki is missing a repo_name entry
WARNING: repository at /usr/local/portage is missing a repo_name entry


does anyone knows why am i getting this?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Code:
WARNING: repository at /usr/portage/local/layman/openoffice-geki is missing a repo_name entry
WARNING: repository at /usr/local/portage is missing a repo_name entry


does anyone knows why am i getting this?


yeah you have to name the repos, i got the same thing with the new portage:

make, /usr/local/portage/profiles/repo_name and /usr/portage/local/layman/openoffice-geki/profiles/repo_name

As for the name, just put in whatever you want
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