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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: LXDE - Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (Live Ebuilds) Reply with quote

Just letting you all know I added LXDE (http://lxde.org/) live ebuilds to the zen-overlay

layman -a zen-overlay
emerge lxde lxsession lxappearance obconf
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooooooooooo nice

openbox is my favorite wm. I use KDE/openbox and Gnome/openbox sometimes.
I usually prefer the lighter FVWM - which required quite a bit of work to get it nice.

Afterstep would be nice too, but the gentoo ebuild is sooooooooooo broken - there isn't even an afterstep executable!!! Can you imagine!

Thanks for the overlay :D
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notHerbert wrote:
ooooooooooo nice

openbox is my favorite wm. I use KDE/openbox and Gnome/openbox sometimes.
I usually prefer the lighter FVWM - which required quite a bit of work to get it nice.

Afterstep would be nice too, but the gentoo ebuild is sooooooooooo broken - there isn't even an afterstep executable!!! Can you imagine!

Thanks for the overlay :D


you can use any wm with this, ob is just the default, i can remove the dep on it... lxde comes with a nice panel and gtk based session manager plus is uses a nice filemanager called pcmanfm (much nicer than thunar of xfce) and a tabbed terminal similar to gnome-terminal... plus some other stuff if u emerge them
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another overlay for LXDE with live ebuild
http://code.google.com/p/freshgen/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheMixa wrote:
Yet another overlay for LXDE with live ebuild
http://code.google.com/p/freshgen/


I only knew of the ones in the gentoo-taiwan overlay (and they didnt compile for me) which is why I made the live ebuilds
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks interesting, anyone got any tests on how much lighter it is than say xfce4?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have ebuilds for LXDE in gentoo-taiwan overlay.
# layman -a gentoo-taiwan

i made a category lxde-base and thrown everything there.
they're regular release ebuilds, i'm going to make live svn ebuilds (and mask them of course) after i find out what is causing random stall of my computer (i guess it's the new ati-drivers or bfq iosched or both but not so sure).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LXDE certainly looks interesting. Just too bad it uses gtk+ (I much prefer Qt4), but that's just personal preference. I'm using openbox on my old P3 laptop, so I might try lxde there. If anyone is willing to help out for the release (or snapshot) ebuilds as maintainer-by-proxy, I'd be willing to add the packages to portage.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: I can help Reply with quote

I use LXDE as main desktop at home for 2 weeks. It's nice. I can transform(clean and fix some things) live ebuilds from my overlay(freshgen) for their further addition to the main tree. Let to me know if you agree. Stable packets of LXDE are not usefull now(but svn nice).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: I can help Reply with quote

TheMixa wrote:
Stable packets of LXDE are not usefull now(but svn nice).

Are the stable packages so outdated? Or is development just so rapid?

Either way, I'm fine with getting some snapshot ebuilds into portage then, and we can cooperate on the ebuilds. You can find me on IRC (on freenode of course) with the same nick, or email me at yngwin@gentoo.org.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I can help Reply with quote

yngwin wrote:
we can cooperate on the ebuilds. You can find me on IRC (on freenode of course) with the same nick, or email me at yngwin@gentoo.org.

I sent email for you
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I installed LXDE with the live ebuilds mostly from freshgen and am quite impressed. We definitely need to get this into portage and make it available for all Gentoo users. In order to do so I have started the Gentoo LXDE Project and announced it on the gentoo-dev mailing list.

As stated in both of these places, I plan to set up an official overlay for the project and develop the ebuilds in there. This will both give it more visibility, as well as allow you guys, who have been working on these ebuilds in your separate overlays, to participate and cooperate. The idea is to keep the live ebuilds in the overlay, and have one central and official place for these. Then we can also make ebuilds for stable releases and development snapshots, which will then go into portage.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Total: 24 packages (24 new), 152.81 MBytes to download

Are you sure lxpanel needs latex?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Total: 24 packages (24 new), 152.81 MBytes to download

Are you sure lxpanel needs latex?


it should not need latex, most of the lx* apps have no deps
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like it will be a very nice addition to portage.

Which is the recommended overlay to use at this early stage or should I wait till the project and an official overlay gets sorted?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope to get the official overlay started today, with live ebuilds, and then we take it from there.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, thats very quick, and much appreciated. Looking forward to trying out LXDE
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, the overlay is online now and I've committed the first bunch of ebuilds, based on the work done in the three overlays above. You'll need mercurial to get it, and tomorrow I'll add it to layman.

Code:
hg clone http://bitbucket.org/yngwin/lxde-overlay/


You can also browse the overlay at http://www.bitbucket.org/yngwin/lxde-overlay/src/
In the Documentation folder I have put a package.keywords file for the live ebuilds, and a set for use with portage-2.2. I plan to add more "real" documentation tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lxnm is NOT a nm-applet-like tool, its a standalone network management tool.
and it has only glib but no gtk+ dependency.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palatis wrote:
lxnm is NOT a nm-applet-like tool, its a standalone network management tool.
and it has only glib but no gtk+ dependency.


and its missing the docbook-fix patch ;) with out it. it fails to emerge
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I fixed the lxnm ebuild.

Palatis and rmh3093, you are both very welcome to join the project. If you want to do so, please give me your email address and your username at bitbucket.org, so I can give you write access.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats up with the random lxappearance ebuild in portage? Any way to get that removed?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'll do a "hostile take-over"... :twisted:
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The official lxde overlay is available in layman now. Make sure you have mercurial installed, and update layman's overlay list with layman -f and then you should be able to do layman -a lxde :D
If you have portage-2.2_rc8 (current ~arch), you can pull in the packages with emerge -av @lxde-full or emerge -av @lxde-lite for the light variant. You need to copy or link the file in Documentation/portage/package.keywords/lxde-svn to /etc/portage/package.keywords to "unmask" the unkeyworded ebuilds.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I am confused, which layman should user use?
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