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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: [PALUDIS] Support thread (current v. 0.30.*) - Part 5 Reply with quote

PALUDIS SUPPORT THREAD - 0.30.0 is in the paludis repository and gentoo tree
Many news, so just take a look here to what's new:

  • IMPORTANT

    Please report bugs to trac, or use the paludis-user mailing list if you're not sure. Any reports made here will likely not been seen or fixed by Paludis developers.

  • ABOUT

    This thread is the part 5 of the old Paludis Support thread - Part 4. It has been split with the upcomming 0.30.* versions of Paludis.

    This front post will be updated from time to time. The old first post will not.

    Paludis is a portage alternative.

    I created this thread for everybody that has problems with using paludis or has something useful to contribute to others about paludis.
    Paludis is different than portage in command line and configs differ, too.
    Any help, info, shortcut, howto or a tip is welcome here.

  • LINKS

    (links changed - UPDATED)
    From paludis home page:
    • The link to paludis homepage: http://paludis.pioto.org/
    • Introduction
    • Bugs, Requests, Support
    • Overview
    • FAQ
    • Clients (programs that come with paludis)
    • Configuration
    • API

      Other resources:

      Share your experiences with paludis here: [ Poll ] Are you satisfied with Paludis

      paludis-extras overlay
      (eclass added so please follow the upgrade instructions)
      Now includes:
      • app-paludis/paludis-hooks-0.3.3 - collection of hooks for paludis (basicaly comming from this thread)
          * ask - truc, zxy
          * check-security-updates
          * collision-protect - dleverton
          * compress-man
          * log-mailer
          * paludis-wrapper - truc, zxy
          * sync-disks - zxy
          * undo-prelink - dleverton
          * update-eix - pioto; contributors bo.andersen, truc
      • app-portage/portage-utils (paludis version) -- truc
      • app-portage/gentoolkit (revdep-rebuild modified for paludis) -- jordan83, zxy
      • app-paludis/etc-paludis (etc-update modified for paludis) -- jordan83
      • app-admin/eselect-paludis-hooks - manage hooks with eselect -- zxy
      • app-paludis/paludis-wrapper (a wrapper script for --nice and --ask) -- truc, zxy
      • sys-apps/module-rebuild (module-rebuild ported to paludis) -- zxy, truc


      Install instructions and change logs are here:

      where you can also find some of the scripts from this and previous thread.

      This overlay is unsupported by paludis and gentoo devs. Do not bother them about it. You can ask questions on paludis-extras overlay thread or on IRC freenode: #paludis-extras.

    • INSTALLATION

      Paludis is in portage and is available in ~arch. For migrating see the guide in the links section.


    • KNOWN ISSUES - DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PORTAGE AND PALUDIS

      If you encounter any problems read the docs on Paludis homepage.
      You can see the FAQ page here: http://paludis.pioto.org/faq

      Check HERE: [url]http://paludis.pioto.org/faq/different.html]/url] to read about differences between portage and paludis.

      There is many things in this and the previous thread, too. And don't forget the wiki.


    • THIS THREAD, THE PREVIOUS THREAD AND WIKI INCLUDE

      In this thread and in the wiki you can find how to make the following work with Paludis:

      • eix
      • revdep-rebuild (it will be removed when 0.26.0 comes out -- reconcilio is included in alphas)
      • ccache
      • portage-utils
      • zsh scripts
      • hooks
        for
        • manage orphaned files after unmerging; for prelinked libraries(by dleverton)
        • collision-protect] (by dleverton)
        see this thread: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-536458.html
      • various tips, tricks, Q & A


      and more...


Enjoy using Paludis,
zxy


It is NOT alowed to start FLAMEWARS here. Go to other threads if you search for a fight!!!!!
For fights go here for example:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-495257-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html
and there are many more there on the forums (probably LOCKED, though :wink: ).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want to fix the "about" section...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, fixed.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like trac on pioto has died :(
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, http://paludis.pioto.org/trac/ works for me
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Paludis 0.30, while compiling udev-127, right after the ./config part has finished:
Code:
../../libtool: line 831: X--tag=CC: command not found
../../libtool: line 831: X--tag=CC: command not found
../../libtool: line 831: X--tag=CC: command not found
../../libtool: line 864: libtool: ignoring unknown tag : command not found
../../libtool: line 864: libtool: ignoring unknown tag : command not found
../../libtool: line 831: X--mode=compile: command not found
../../libtool: line 831: X--mode=compile: command not found
../../libtool: line 864: libtool: ignoring unknown tag : command not found
../../libtool: line 831: X--mode=compile: command not found
../../libtool: line 998: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is deprecated.: command not found
../../libtool: line 999: *** Future versions of Libtool will require --mode=MODE be specified.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: Xx86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DHAVE_CONFIG_H: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-I.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-I../..: No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DSYSCONFDIR="/etc": No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 998: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is deprecated.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DUDEV_PREFIX="/": No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DLIBUDEV_COMPILATION: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-O2: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-march=native: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-mtune=native: command not found
../../libtool: line 998: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is deprecated.: command not found
../../libtool: line 999: *** Future versions of Libtool will require --mode=MODE be specified.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-pipe: command not found
../../libtool: line 999: *** Future versions of Libtool will require --mode=MODE be specified.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: Xx86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-fomit-frame-pointer: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: Xx86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MT: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DHAVE_CONFIG_H: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DHAVE_CONFIG_H: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-I.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: Xlibudev-utils.lo: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-I.: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-I../..: No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MD: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-I../..: No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MP: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DSYSCONFDIR="/etc": No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DSYSCONFDIR="/etc": No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MF: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DUDEV_PREFIX="/": No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X.deps/libudev-utils.Tpo: No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DUDEV_PREFIX="/": No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DLIBUDEV_COMPILATION: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-c: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-DLIBUDEV_COMPILATION: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-O2: command not found
../../libtool: line 1195: Xlibudev-utils.lo: command not found
../../libtool: line 1200: libtool: compile: cannot determine name of library object from `': command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-O2: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-march=native: command not found
make[3]: *** [libudev-utils.lo] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
../../libtool: line 1142: X-march=native: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-mtune=native: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-mtune=native: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-pipe: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-pipe: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-fomit-frame-pointer: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-fomit-frame-pointer: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MT: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MT: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: Xlibudev-device.lo: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: Xlibudev.lo: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MD: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MP: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MD: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MF: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MP: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X.deps/libudev-device.Tpo: No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-MF: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X-c: command not found
../../libtool: line 1142: X.deps/libudev.Tpo: No such file or directory
../../libtool: line 1142: X-c: command not found
../../libtool: line 1195: Xlibudev-device.lo: command not found
../../libtool: line 1200: libtool: compile: cannot determine name of library object from `': command not found
make[3]: *** [libudev-device.lo] Error 1
../../libtool: line 1195: Xlibudev.lo: command not found
../../libtool: line 1200: libtool: compile: cannot determine name of library object from `': command not found
make[3]: *** [libudev.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/paludis/sys-fs-udev-127/work/udev-127/udev/lib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/paludis/sys-fs-udev-127/work/udev-127/udev'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/paludis/sys-fs-udev-127/work/udev-127'
make: *** [all] Error 2
/usr/libexec/paludis/utils/emake: emake returned error 2

!!! ERROR in sys-fs/udev-127:
!!! In src_compile at line 4479
!!! compiling udev failed

!!! Call stack:
!!!    * src_compile (/var/tmp/paludis/sys-fs-udev-127/temp/loadsaveenv:4479)
!!!    * ebuild_f_compile (/usr/libexec/paludis/0/src_compile.bash:49)
!!!    * ebuild_main (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:470)
!!!    * main (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:485)


I got the same error with some other packages. To solve the problem, I recompiled libtool.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
my gentoo is very ill :oops:

I'm trying paludis after emerged then
Quote:
# paludis --install --pretend --dl-reinstall if-use-changed world
paludis@1221080525: [WARNING portage_environment.dodgy] Use of Portage configura
tion files will lead to sub-optimal performance and loss of functionality. Full
support for Portage configuration formats is not guaranteed; issues should be re
ported via trac.
Building target list...
Building dependency list...paludis@1221080590: [QA e.child.message] In program paludis --install --pretend --dl-reinstall if-use-changed world:
... When performing install action from command line:
... When executing install task:
... When building dependency list:
... When adding NamedSetDepSpec 'world':
... When adding PackageDepSpec 'dev-libs/eet':
... When generating metadata for ID 'dev-libs/eet-9999::enlightenment':
... When running ebuild command to generate metadata for 'dev-libs/eet-9999::enlightenment':
... When running command 'sandbox /usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash '/usr/portage/local/layman/enlightenment/dev-libs/eet/eet-9999.ebuild' metadata':
... In ebuild pipe command handler for 'LOG 0 qa Variable 'KEYWORDS' should not be set by /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass
':
... Variable 'KEYWORDS' should not be set by /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass
paludis@1221080591: [QA e.child.message] In program paludis --install --pretend --dl-reinstall if-use-changed world:
... When performing install action from command line:
... When executing install task:
... When building dependency list:
... When adding NamedSetDepSpec 'world':
... When adding PackageDepSpec 'dev-libs/eet':
... When generating metadata for ID 'dev-libs/eet-0.9.10.041::enlightenment':
... When running ebuild command to generate metadata for 'dev-libs/eet-0.9.10.041::enlightenment':
... When running command 'sandbox /usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash '/usr/portage/local/layman/enlightenment/dev-libs/eet/eet-0.9.10.041.ebuild' metadata':
... In ebuild pipe command handler for 'LOG 0 qa Variable 'KEYWORDS' should not be set by /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass
':
... Variable 'KEYWORDS' should not be set by /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass
paludis@1221080591: [QA e.child.message] In program paludis --install --pretend --dl-reinstall if-use-changed world:
... When performing install action from command line:
... When executing install task:
... When building dependency list:
... When adding NamedSetDepSpec 'world':
... When adding PackageDepSpec 'dev-libs/embryo':
... When generating metadata for ID 'dev-libs/embryo-9999::enlightenment':
... When running ebuild command to generate metadata for 'dev-libs/embryo-9999::enlightenment':
... When running command 'sandbox /usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash '/usr/portage/local/layman/enlightenment/dev-libs/embryo/embryo-9999.ebuild' metadata':
... In ebuild pipe command handler for 'LOG 0 qa Variable 'KEYWORDS' should not be set by /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass

and these errors:
Quote:

x11-libs/e_dbus::enlightenment [! masked]
Reasons: x11-wm/e-0.16.999.041:0::installed
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* dev-libs/efreet::enlightenment [! masked]
Reasons: x11-wm/e-0.16.999.041:0::installed
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* media-libs/edje::enlightenment [! masked]
Reasons: x11-wm/e-0.16.999.041:0::installed
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* x11-libs/evas::enlightenment [! masked]
Reasons: x11-libs/ecore-0.9.9.041:0::installed
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* x11-libs/ecore::enlightenment [! masked]
Reasons: x11-wm/e-0.16.999.041:0::installed
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* x11-wm/e::enlightenment [! masked]
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* media-libs/libdvdnav::berkano [! masked]
Reasons: media-video/mplayer-9999-r20:0::berkano
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86)
* dev-libs/soprano [! masked]
Reasons: kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.5:kde-4::installed
Masked by: keyword (~amd64 ~x86)
* dev-libs/embryo::enlightenment [! masked]
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)
* dev-libs/eet::enlightenment [! masked]
Masked by: keyword (~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd)

I don't know where enlightenment.eclass came from because:
Quote:
# equery b /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/portage/eclass/enlightenment.eclass in *... ]

I've other problems wiht eclass files, but I think are not related with the errors above:
Quote:
# emerge -pv e_dbus
* Overlay eclasses override eclasses from PORTDIR:
*
* '/usr/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-base.eclass'
* '/usr/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-functions.eclass'
* '/usr/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass'
*
* It is best to avoid overridding eclasses from PORTDIR because it will
* trigger invalidation of cached ebuild metadata that is distributed with
* the portage tree. If you must override eclasses from PORTDIR then you
* are advised to run `emerge --regen` after each time that you run `emerge
* --sync`. Set PORTAGE_ECLASS_WARNING_ENABLE="0" in /etc/make.conf if you
* would like to disable this warning.

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/e_dbus-0.1.0.003 USE="X nls -doc" 0 kB [1]

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Portage tree and overlays:
[0] /usr/portage
[1] /usr/portage/local/layman/enlightenment



Do you think, I need to understand a lot of stuff?
I hope not confusing you with many trouble.
Sorry
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing the enlightenment overlay padulis works
...finally
but pretend to emerge a lot of package that I don't need, I suppose,
Code:
...
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv [N 2.1.9]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Nvidia video driver"
    -debug
    376.96 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-rendition [N 4.1.3]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Rendition video driver"
    -debug
    285.76 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-s3 [N 0.5.0]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "X.Org driver for s3 cards"
    -debug
    234.44 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-s3virge [N 1.9.1]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "S3 ViRGE video driver"
    -debug
    273.35 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-savage [N 2.1.2-r1]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "S3 Savage video driver"
    -debug dri
    296.38 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-siliconmotion [N 1.5.1]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Silicon Motion video driver"
    -debug
    259.60 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-sis [N 0.9.3]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "SiS and XGI video driver"
    -debug dri
    603.12 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-sisusb [N 0.8.1]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "SiS USB video driver"
    -debug
    282.27 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-tdfx [N 1.3.0]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "3Dfx video driver"
    -debug dri
    255.32 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-tga [N 1.1.0]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "X.Org driver for tga cards"
    -debug
    254.24 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-trident [N 1.2.3]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Trident video driver"
    -debug
    281.61 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-tseng [N 1.1.1]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Tseng Labs video driver"
    -debug
    266.81 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-v4l [N 0.1.1]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "video4linux driver"
    -debug
    229.00 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa [N 1.3.0]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Generic VESA video driver"
    -debug
    232.19 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga [N 4.1.0]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "Generic VGA video driver"
    -debug
    228.17 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome [N 0.2.902]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "X.Org driver for VIA/S3G cards"
    -debug dri
    424.22 kBytes to download
* x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware [N 10.15.0]
    Reasons: *x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6:0::gentoo
    "VMware SVGA video driver"
    -debug
...
Code:
General sets:

* world:           Packages that have been explicitly installed

Use flags:

* 3dfx:            Enable support for Voodoo chipsets, also called as 3DFX and T
DFX
* amrnb:           
* amrwb:           
* debug:           Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra output.
If you want to get meaningful backtraces see http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/ba
cktraces.xml
* dirac:           
* dri:             Enable direct rendering: used for accelerated 3D and some 2D,
 like DMA
* dvdnav:         
* enca:            Enables support for charset discovery and conversion
* fpm:             
* hardcoded-tables: Use pre-calculated tables rather than calculating them on th
e fly.
* i8x0:           
* icc:             
* ivtv:           
* livecd:          !!internal use only!! DO NOT SET THIS FLAG YOURSELF!, used du
ring livecd building
* matrox:          Adds Matrox MGA support to mplayer
* mga:             
* mp2:             Enables support for twolame, an MP2 audio library
* mpeg:            Adds libmpeg3 support to various packages
* nls:             Adds Native Language Support (using gettext - GNU locale util
ities)
* nut:             
* nvidia:         
* oss:             Adds support for OSS (Open Sound System)
* psyrdo:         
* schroedinger:   
* srt:             Internal SRT/SSA/ASS (SubRip / SubStation Alpha) subtitle sup
port
* tivo:            Enables TiVo vstream client support
* v4l:             Enables video4linux support

apache2_modules:

* authn_alias:     Provides the ability to create extended authentication provid
ers based on actual providers

video_cards:

* apm:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for apm video cards
* ark:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for ark video cards
* chips:           VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for chips video cards
* cirrus:          VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for cirrus video cards
* cyrix:           VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for cyrix video cards
* dummy:           VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for dummy video cards
* fbdev:           VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for fbdev video cards
* glint:           VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for glint video cards
* i128:            VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for i128 video cards
* i810:            VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for i810 video cards
* mach64:          VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for mach64 video cards
* mga:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for mga video cards
* neomagic:        VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for neomagic video cards
* nv:              VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for nv video cards
* r128:            VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for r128 video cards
* rendition:       VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for rendition video cards
* s3:              VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for s3 video cards
* s3virge:         VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for s3virge video cards
* savage:          VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for savage video cards
* siliconmotion:   VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for siliconmotion video c
ards
* sis:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for sis video cards
* sisusb:          VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for sisusb video cards
* tdfx:            VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for tdfx video cards
* tga:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for tga video cards
* trident:         VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for trident video cards
* tseng:           VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for tseng video cards
* v4l:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for v4l video cards
* vesa:            VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for vesa video cards
* vga:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for vga video cards
* via:             VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for via video cards
* vmware:          VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for vmware video cards
* voodoo:          VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for voodoo video cards
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I'm going to use the portage environment
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to install new system on another HDD from working setup. So I mounted new HD under /mnt/chroot and exported ROOT. But this approach doesn't seem to work with paludis. I've tried to look for info about --destinations, but due to lack of informations I'm not sure if they are not ment for future binary support only.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how can I adjust the timeout intervall after which paludis skips the repository to sync ?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Tao wrote:
I'm trying to install new system on another HDD from working setup. So I mounted new HD under /mnt/chroot and exported ROOT. But this approach doesn't seem to work with paludis. I've tried to look for info about --destinations, but due to lack of informations I'm not sure if they are not ment for future binary support only.

I would appreciate any suggestion.


http://paludis.pioto.org/configuration/specpath.html

Quote:
Configuration File Locations

Paludis looks in the following places for configuration files:

* ${PALUDIS_HOME}/.paludis, if the PALUDIS_HOME environment variable is set, or ${HOME}/.paludis otherwise.
* ${SYSCONFDIR}/paludis, where SYSCONFDIR is /etc on most systems.

If --environment :suffix or --environment paludis:suffix is specified, Paludis will use .paludis-suffix or paludis-suffix. This can be used to maintain multiple configurations, for example for chroots.


so you need to make ~/.paludis-whatever and define specpath inside to your chroot dir.

Quote:
specpath.conf

If a file named specpath.conf exists in the configuration directory, Paludis uses this to find a second, real configuration directory. specpath.conf is a standard key=value configuration file, with the following keys having recognised meaning:

root
The real configuration directory is taken to be ${root}/SYSCONFDIR/paludis/ (note that HOME values are not used). When installing, ${root}/ is used rather than / as the base install location.


the rest of the paludis configuration should be put inside ${root}/etc/paludis , where root is defined in ~/.paludis-whatever/specpath.conf

then use "paludis --environment :whatever" and paludis should pick that up.

that worked for me a few months ago, i might have made a mistake somewhere along the way, so don't expect it to be correct out-of-the-box.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there a way to have paludis understand the multilib use flag and have it build the multilib packages as such?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yoshi314 wrote:

then use "paludis --environment :whatever" and paludis should pick that up.

that worked for me a few months ago, i might have made a mistake somewhere along the way, so don't expect it to be correct out-of-the-box.
Thank you very much yoshi, this is exactly what I needed! It's installing right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beso_1717 wrote:
is there a way to have paludis understand the multilib use flag and have it build the multilib packages as such?


Paludis handles multilib the same as portage. As long as you're running a multilib system, it will build multilib packages as multilib
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loftwyr wrote:
beso_1717 wrote:
is there a way to have paludis understand the multilib use flag and have it build the multilib packages as such?


Paludis handles multilib the same as portage. As long as you're running a multilib system, it will build multilib packages as multilib


hmm.... it's not like this on my system. i'll take 4 examples:

i have glibc, gcc with multilib system and the profile set to multilib. portage compiles with mulilib (use flag) and installs both 32bit and 64bit files (for the various packages).
paludis instead doesn't find multilib (as well as nptl for a bunch of packages) as use flag and when building doesn't build also the 32bit counterparts. i've always thought that even if the mulilib flag is not recognized well (paludis shows it like this: (-multilib)) it would still install multilib packages as multilib ones. but i happend to see that a mulilib package (mplayerplug-in) hadn't built also the 32bit part. so i went on checking the other multilib packages and guess what: gcc and glibc have been updated by paludis without the 32bit part accordingly to the qlist utility. i didn't know that this would happen, and frankly i don't understand why before rebuilding gcc with multilib use flag with portage the 32bit apps have worked out well.

now, if i have some issues on my system and you're telling that on a multilib system paludis would automatically build multilib packages as so i'd like what are the things i need to look out and see what is wrong on my system.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like things are definitely weird on your system. What profile are you using? what use flags have you declared that might affect it? Are you using paludis environment or portage?

I'd check to see if you have accidentally put something strange in use.conf or bashrc

I've been using a multilib system with paludis and everything is fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loftwyr wrote:
It sounds like things are definitely weird on your system. What profile are you using? what use flags have you declared that might affect it? Are you using paludis environment or portage?

I'd check to see if you have accidentally put something strange in use.conf or bashrc

I've been using a multilib system with paludis and everything is fine.


here's the paludis --info

http://pastebin.com/m1e4c35e0

here's the portage info (the differences are in the use flags that in portage aren't up to date):

http://pastebin.com/m40757efe

here's the paludis bashrc:

http://pastebin.com/mc8f28cb

this is the actual profile:

/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/amd64/2008.0

this is the contents of /etc/profile

http://pastebin.com/m5b1adac

i don't seem to find anything wrong on my configuration.... :(
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have the multilib flag set in your USE flags. Try removing it and see if your problem clears up.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loftwyr wrote:
You have the multilib flag set in your USE flags. Try removing it and see if your problem clears up.


shouldn't it be set to build a multilib package?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Npe, the multilib flag is handled differently than others. It's a profile flag and is handled by the system.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to upgrade from kde3.5 to kde4... I think I have uninstalled all of kde3.5, but now I get this during "paludis -ip world":

Quote:
* kde-base/kdelibs :3.5 [S 3.5.9-r4] <world>
Reasons: *kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, 13 more
acl alsa -arts+ -avahi+ -bindist -branding+ cups+ -debug -doc fam -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -kerberos -legacyssl+ -lua+ openexr spell tiff+ -utempter+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+ kernel: (linux)+
* kde-base/libkonq :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo, 3 more
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdebase-data :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kicker-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-debug+ -kdeenablefinal+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kicker :3.5 [N 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
"Kicker is the KDE application starter panel, also capable of some useful applets and extensions."
-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility xcomposite -xinerama elibc: (-FreeBSD)
20.91 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kcminit :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdesu :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
38.82 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kdialog :3.5 [S 3.5.9-r1]
Reasons: *kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug hal+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -ldap+ openexr samba -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
38.41 kBytes to download
* kde-base/khelpcenter :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
8.30 kBytes to download
* kde-base/khotkeys :3.5 [S 3.5.9] <world>
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kcontrol :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -ieee1394+ -joystick+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ logitech-mouse+ opengl+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
37.20 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kcheckpass :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ pam -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
19.36 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kfind :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/konqueror :3.5 [S 3.5.9] <world>
Reasons: *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -branding+ -debug -java+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdesktop :3.5 [N 3.5.9-r1] <world>
"KDesktop is the KDE interface that handles the icons, desktop popup menus and screensaver system."
-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama -xscreensaver elibc: (-FreeBSD)
* kde-base/kwin :3.5 [S 3.5.9-r1] <world>
-arts+ -debug+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ xcomposite -xinerama elibc: (-FreeBSD)+


Can anyone provide me with some pointers to find out what package had dependencies on the sloted kde3.5 base apps? kdelibs is being installed due to the packages below it on the above list, by why are those packages being pulled in??? Does paludis have an equery alternative to verify that I have uninstalled all packages that depend on kde3.5???

Thanks for your help!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazx888 wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from kde3.5 to kde4... I think I have uninstalled all of kde3.5, but now I get this during "paludis -ip world":

Quote:
* kde-base/kdelibs :3.5 [S 3.5.9-r4] <world>
Reasons: *kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kcminit-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, 13 more
acl alsa -arts+ -avahi+ -bindist -branding+ cups+ -debug -doc fam -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -kerberos -legacyssl+ -lua+ openexr spell tiff+ -utempter+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+ kernel: (linux)+
* kde-base/libkonq :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo, 3 more
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdebase-data :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kicker-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-debug+ -kdeenablefinal+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kicker :3.5 [N 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
"Kicker is the KDE application starter panel, also capable of some useful applets and extensions."
-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility xcomposite -xinerama elibc: (-FreeBSD)
20.91 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kcminit :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdesu :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
38.82 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kdialog :3.5 [S 3.5.9-r1]
Reasons: *kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug hal+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -ldap+ openexr samba -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
38.41 kBytes to download
* kde-base/khelpcenter :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
8.30 kBytes to download
* kde-base/khotkeys :3.5 [S 3.5.9] <world>
Reasons: *kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kcontrol :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo, *kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -ieee1394+ -joystick+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ logitech-mouse+ opengl+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
37.20 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kcheckpass :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ pam -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
19.36 kBytes to download
* kde-base/kfind :3.5 [S 3.5.9]
Reasons: *kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -debug -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/konqueror :3.5 [S 3.5.9] <world>
Reasons: *kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.9-r1:3.5::gentoo
-arts+ -branding+ -debug -java+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ -xinerama+ elibc: (-FreeBSD)+
* kde-base/kdesktop :3.5 [N 3.5.9-r1] <world>
"KDesktop is the KDE interface that handles the icons, desktop popup menus and screensaver system."
-arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xinerama -xscreensaver elibc: (-FreeBSD)
* kde-base/kwin :3.5 [S 3.5.9-r1] <world>
-arts+ -debug+ -kdeenablefinal+ -kdehiddenvisibility+ xcomposite -xinerama elibc: (-FreeBSD)+


Can anyone provide me with some pointers to find out what package had dependencies on the sloted kde3.5 base apps? kdelibs is being installed due to the packages below it on the above list, by why are those packages being pulled in??? Does paludis have an equery alternative to verify that I have uninstalled all packages that depend on kde3.5???

Thanks for your help!


try paludis -u =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4 --permit-unsafe-uninstalls -p
this will give you a list of packages to uninstall (kdelibs 3.5.9-r4 in this example) and a list of red coloured packages that are the ones that need this package installed. these are the blockers, which mean that these packages need to be unistalled to be able to remove kdelibs.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of packages (like open office) that need KDE 3.5. If you remove all of KDE you need to remove the kde flag from your USE flags.

I would just leave those few there and wait a while until their no longer needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have removed kde from the USE flags a while back.

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paludis -u =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4 --permit-unsafe-uninstalls -p
<- have already uninstalled kdelibs... when I try executing that command now, it recommends uninstalled kdelibs for kde4.

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There are a lot of packages (like open office) that need KDE 3.5.
Have already reinstalled openoffice without kde support.

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I would just leave those few there and wait a while until their no longer needed.
Yes, that is an option, but that's no fun :)

Is there no way to check for packages with broken dependencies?
Or check packages that have had a USE flag changed and hence need to be reinstalled?
Is it just me or is it strange that kde3.5 is being requested to be installed and paludis is not informing me why it should be installed (what dependency has been broken)? Could this problem be due to an old meta package (ie kdebase-startkde)?


Thanks for your help guys. Do appreciate all the work that has been done on paludis!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazx888 wrote:
Is there no way to check for packages with broken dependencies?
Or check packages that have had a USE flag changed and hence need to be reinstalled?
Code:
paludis --dl-reinstall if-use-changed everything
reconcilio -p
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