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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not if you read every line of source code you download an verify by some means better than the manual inspection that was unable to catch the 2.6.30 kernel bug we are talking about. 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your help. Apparently amd64/x86-64 and Intel 64/EM64T although different at one time are now practically identical (small change in CFLAGS) so I'll certainly be using amd64. Also IA-64 is not the same as Intel 64, like I thought they were, which is misleading.

I will be on my way to a working system soon. Also thanks for the heads up on the 2.6.30 kernels.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just uploaded .configs for 2.6.29-gentoo-r6 and 2.6.30-gentoo-r3 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Kernel seed on custom-built machine, kernel panic Reply with quote

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Pappy, I didn't see a seed for .30-r3 so I used the seed from .30-r2. I don't think that caused any problems.

No, not at all. That's my bad anyway. I did just upload the new .configs for 2.6.29-gentoo-r6 and 2.6.30-gentoo-r3. It's been a really busy weekend around here.

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I'm getting a kernel panic when I try to boot, after following the seed how-to. I don't know, aside from copying my old, non-seed config, which I don't want to do, how to get this system working with this seed, so I'm hoping you'll spot what it is that must be turned on for this particular system.


Not a problem. I'll get to it...if not tonight, first thing when I wake.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to my reading of the story listed on the previous page, it is worse for you if you are running with SELinux enabled. If you aren't, there is still a possibility of the exploit being pernicious.

There is a fix out for it presently. I have not tried to apply it yet, but I do have three machines running that kernel version, so I think it might be smart on my part to give the fix a go. My risk is presently minimal since the machine in the DMZ is more or less a throw-away. If it gets hit, I can get it back up in no time. The other machines on my net are behind the firewall, and only make outgoing connections. No incoming traffic from the net whatsoever.

Audiodef, while there is always a danger when one has one's computer hooked up to the internet, in general, you should be fairly safe. I get this feeling that the exploit is going to be plugged for the next .30 version, if it isn't already with 2.6.30-gentoo-r3. If it really worries you, switch to a .29 or lesser until we hear that the exploit has been plugged at kernel.org.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya Pappy

First of all - thanks for the seeds - i'm using Gentoo since hmmm ... about 2003, but was always using genkenel and somehow never got to congureing and compiling it alone.

Just a couple of thoughts about the website:
1. would be great to add info, that some options if don't have their requirements met they won't be visible in the tree (unless you mark the option from the xconfig menu) and user will have to find the requirements by hand basing on option description (for example initially I had problem with finding option for quite popular realtek 8139too)
2. whenever you write some section name it would be very convenient to give full path (for example Device drivers->Sound->ALSA->optionnam instead just "optionname")
3. http://62.3.120.141/~pappy/deb-pg_2.png - is 2.2 MB ! fast resampling gave around 30-40 KB output file, if b&w about 16KB :P generally page can load way faster if you convert some ss to b&w
4. additional info, that if you recompile already used kernel, all your modules from /lib/modules/kernelversion will be deleted and you will have to reemerge them (for me that was nvidia drivers and vbox)
5. just a thought - maybe add ntfs r/rw support as a default ?

yes, i know that abovementioned notes are not strictly about the seeds, but hope will help anyway :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bat wrote:
4. additional info, that if you recompile already used kernel, all your modules from /lib/modules/kernelversion will be deleted and you will have to reemerge them (for me that was nvidia drivers and vbox)

Hmmm... I don't know about genkernel but when you recompile your kernel or an existing one, modules are kept unless you specifically remove them in menuconfig. This is precisely an advantage of compiling a kernel: you may add modules by enabling them in menuconfig so that you can modprobe them as soon as they're compiled. Truth is every module that comes with portage (e.g. virtualbox, vmware, nvidia, ati, aso) must be re-emerged but only if you compile a *new* kernel. Modules are removed only if you run make mrproper -- which is probably what genkernel does BTW.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm .. possibly i just missed the fact, that genkernel modules are in dir with /lib/modules/*-genkernel-* in name ... but, like i said - havent been doing it without genkernel before :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bat wrote:
hmmm .. possibly i just missed the fact, that genkernel modules are in dir with /lib/modules/*-genkernel-* in name ... but, like i said - havent been doing it without genkernel before :)

There are options for genkernel, which control whether or not make mrproper is run each time. You might want to check /etc/genkernel.conf too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pappy_mcfae wrote:
Audiodef, while there is always a danger when one has one's computer hooked up to the internet, in general, you should be fairly safe. I get this feeling that the exploit is going to be plugged for the next .30 version, if it isn't already with 2.6.30-gentoo-r3. If it really worries you, switch to a .29 or lesser until we hear that the exploit has been plugged at kernel.org.


Thanks for the advice. I kind of thought I wouldn't have to worry too much about it. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pappy_mcfae wrote:
VERY IMPORTANT!

There is a new kernel exploit, and it seems to be a doozey! Please read this article for more information. I am going to do more research later on today, but for now, it seems advisable to stay away from .30 kernels, especially if you use SELinux.

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The fix was applied on 5th July. Probably 2.6.30-gentoo-r3 do implement the fix but I haven't checked. For those who, like me, won't probably synchronize a whole portage tree for just a kernel fix (yeah, throw me lines of fire for that :o ), here's the patch:
Code:
diff --git a/drivers/net/tun.c b/drivers/net/tun.c
index b393536..027f7ab 100644
--- a/drivers/net/tun.c
+++ b/drivers/net/tun.c
@@ -486,12 +486,14 @@ static unsigned int tun_chr_poll(struct file *file, poll_table * wait)
 {
    struct tun_file *tfile = file->private_data;
    struct tun_struct *tun = __tun_get(tfile);
-   struct sock *sk = tun->sk;
+   struct sock *sk;
    unsigned int mask = 0;
 
    if (!tun)
       return POLLERR;
 
+   sk = tun->sk;
+
    DBG(KERN_INFO "%s: tun_chr_poll\n", tun->dev->name);
 
    poll_wait(file, &tun->socket.wait, wait);

Mind the tabs when copying this patch!

The short way is as follows:
  1. save this patch as, say, /root/patches/kernel/2.6.30-fix-tun-exploit.patch
  2. run as root
    Code:
    (cd /usr/src/linux && \
       patch -p1 --dry-run < ~/patches/kernel/2.6.30-fix-tun-exploit.patch && \
       patch -p1< ~/patches/kernel/2.6.30-fix-tun-exploit.patch)

  3. recompile your kernel && reboot.
Your kernel is now patched. It won't be patched by accident if something goes wrong. Please check 2.6.30-r3 once downloaded if the fix is implemented. Repeat if not.

This procedure applies to gentoo-sources-2.6.30* up to *-r2 included and only if the latter is your current kernel.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VinzC wrote:
The fix was applied on 5th July. Probably 2.6.30-gentoo-r3 do implement the fix but I haven't checked. For those who, like me, won't probably synchronize a whole portage tree for just a kernel fix (yeah, throw me lines of fire for that :o ), here's the patch:
Code:
diff --git a/drivers/net/tun.c b/drivers/net/tun.c
index b393536..027f7ab 100644
--- a/drivers/net/tun.c
+++ b/drivers/net/tun.c
@@ -486,12 +486,14 @@ static unsigned int tun_chr_poll(struct file *file, poll_table * wait)
 {
    struct tun_file *tfile = file->private_data;
    struct tun_struct *tun = __tun_get(tfile);
-   struct sock *sk = tun->sk;
+   struct sock *sk;
    unsigned int mask = 0;
 
    if (!tun)
       return POLLERR;
 
+   sk = tun->sk;
+
    DBG(KERN_INFO "%s: tun_chr_poll\n", tun->dev->name);
 
    poll_wait(file, &tun->socket.wait, wait);



The above fix is contained in 2.6.30-gentoo-r3. The newly released 2.6.30.2 also contains the fix. Thanks for the information.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worries about the .30 exploit can be put aside. The newest vanilla-sources kernel (2.6.30.2) has the fix for the exploit already contained, as does gentoo-sources-2.6.30-r3. Therefore, I feel ok in announcing the upload of .configs for 2.6.27.27 and 2.6.30.2 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

Also note that "Working with Pappy's Kernel Seeds" is not quite there yet. I am working on it with the help of VinzC. There are a few bugs, and I'm in the process of working them out. The page should be fixed by tomorrow, or Wednesday at the latest. My apologies for the inconvenience.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hiya Pappy
Howdy!
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First of all - thanks for the seeds - i'm using Gentoo since hmmm ... about 2003, but was always using genkenel and somehow never got to congureing and compiling it alone.

Just a couple of thoughts about the website:
1. would be great to add info, that some options if don't have their requirements met they won't be visible in the tree (unless you mark the option from the xconfig menu) and user will have to find the requirements by hand basing on option description (for example initially I had problem with finding option for quite popular realtek 8139too)

Good point. There are some devices like that. However, generally speaking, the data given from http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ is such that it will tell you what kind of device you have. It is assumed that most people know whether or not they have a 10/100 or 10/100/1000 net device, and know where to find same. This is Gentoo Linux, after all.

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2. whenever you write some section name it would be very convenient to give full path (for example Device drivers->Sound->ALSA->optionnam instead just "optionname")


While you are technically correct, I believe that most folks get the general idea of how to work with xconfig. Besides, that's a lot of extra typing I'm avoiding by showing the picture of what to expect.

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3. http://62.3.120.141/~pappy/deb-pg_2.png - is 2.2 MB ! fast resampling gave around 30-40 KB output file, if b&w about 16KB :P generally page can load way faster if you convert some ss to b&w


That situation is somewhat in hand. Your patience is appreciated.

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4. additional info, that if you recompile already used kernel, all your modules from /lib/modules/kernelversion will be deleted and you will have to reemerge them (for me that was nvidia drivers and vbox)


This is incorrect. /lib/modules/<kernel_version> is not automatically wiped by either kernel compilation or issuing make modules_install. As a matter of fact, some folks have had issues with /llib/modules/<kernel_version> that could only be eliminated by deleting that directory and starting over.

I use nvidia-drivers, and I have yet to have issue with this. When it becomes an issue, I'll definitely address it.

Quote:
5. just a thought - maybe add ntfs r/rw support as a default ?


No. I use ntfs-3g exclusively, and my kernel seeds are set up thusly. I do not use, nor do I endorse using the kernel ntfs module. It doesn't work.

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yes, i know that abovementioned notes are not strictly about the seeds, but hope will help anyway :)

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No problem. I appreciate the feedback. That's why I have this page set up here.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Kernel seed on custom-built machine, kernel panic Reply with quote

audiodef wrote:
Pappy, I didn't see a seed for .30-r3 so I used the seed from .30-r2. I don't think that caused any problems.

I'm getting a kernel panic when I try to boot, after following the seed how-to. I don't know, aside from copying my old, non-seed config, which I don't want to do, how to get this system working with this seed, so I'm hoping you'll spot what it is that must be turned on for this particular system.


Really, I didn't forget you. I've been busy with the .30 exploit and making sure it wasn't going to bite my rear. I'll be getting on this presently.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it looks like the problem was that you didn't turn on the via82xx support under ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL. Since your /etc/fstab expects /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdc1. Using the VIA settings under the SATA drivers will make /dev/hda1 /dev/sda1, and so on. That will cause a panic.

If this .config works, you should be able to switch to all SATA drivers (VIA SATA & PATA SUPPORT), and change the hd(x) to sd(x) in /etc/fstab and be done with it. For the moment, though, just make sure things work with this .config.

Click here for your new .config. Compile as is.

For the best results, please do the following:
1) Move your .config file out of your kernel source directory (/usr/src/linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r3 ).
2) Issue the command make mrproper. This is a destructive step. It returns the source to pristine condition. Unmoved .config files will be deleted!
3) Copy my .config into your source directory.
4) Issue the command make && make modules_install.
5) Install the kernel as you normally would, and reboot.
6) Once it boots, please post /var/log/dmesg so I can see how things loaded.

As I said, if you can get this to boot, you should be able to switch to all SATA drivers. Let me know how it works out...and once again, apologies for the time it took to do this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, Pappy, I am bringing up gentoo on my HP nw8240 laptop. It has 2 GB ram and a 250 GB ide drive, and a single core 2 GHz Pentium M cpu. I have gotten it to boot using:
Code:

genkernel --menuconfig --no-clean --dmraid --lvm all

because I am running LVM and needed the easy way to make an initrd. Yes, I finally figured out how to do that, and after a lot of fiddling, its really easy! 8)

I am running kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.29-gentoo-r5, but stock out of the box, not one of your seeds yet. :(

I have aproblem with the ethernet driver though. When I boot, it says:
Code:

ipw2200 0000:02:04.0 firmware: requesting ipw2200-bss.fw

which I guess means I need a firmware upload to the ethernet device. :?

I have never run into a firmware issue with linux before, but then I have never tried to put it on a laptop before.

Here is my lspci output:
Code:

livecd ~ # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE)
02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (rev 05)
02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
02:06.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
02:06.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
02:06.4 Class 0805: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller
02:06.5 Communication controller: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Smart Card Controller
10:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)
livecd ~ # lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 8086:2590 (rev 03)
00:01.0 0604: 8086:2591 (rev 03)
00:1c.0 0604: 8086:2660 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 0604: 8086:2662 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:2658 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:2659 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:265a (rev 03)
00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:265c (rev 03)00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev d3)
00:1e.2 0401: 8086:266e (rev 03)
00:1e.3 0703: 8086:266d (rev 03)
00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2641 (rev 03)
00:1f.1 0101: 8086:266f (rev 03)
01:00.0 0300: 1002:5653
02:04.0 0280: 8086:4223 (rev 05)
02:06.0 0607: 104c:8031
02:06.2 0c00: 104c:8032
02:06.3 0180: 104c:8033
02:06.4 0805: 104c:8034
02:06.5 0780: 104c:8035
10:00.0 0200: 14e4:167d (rev 11)
livecd ~ # df

I gave both the human readable, as well as the Debian web page readable versions.

So what do I need to do to get this puppy talking over the network? :?:

Thanks for all your great help! :D
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should do the trick: emerge -av ipw2200-firmware. That will install the required firmware in the required spot. A quick reboot should then get you up and running.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did that. Didn't solve the problem.

Did an updatedb and a locate .fw and found the files in /lib/firmware, so its there.

Did a new genkernel --menuconfig --no-clean --lvm all just on a hunch; still didn't fix it. :cry:

Any other ideas? :?:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the driver set as a module or into the kernel?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its static in the kernel, like I almost always do drivers. Does it need to be a module for the firmware upload to work properly?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The page "Working with Pappy's Kernel Seeds" has been updated and is now working much better. Many thanks and much appreciation to VinzC for his work.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its static in the kernel, like I almost always do drivers. Does it need to be a module for the firmware upload to work properly?

Yes. My experience is that wireless adapters really like modules. I believe the reason is that you can pass arguments to the module, but can pass nothing if the driver is compiled in. Give that a try and see what happens.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pappy_mcfae wrote:
The page "Working with Pappy's Kernel Seeds" has been updated and is now working much better. Many thanks and much appreciation to VincZ for his work.

Blessed be!
Pappy

You swapped «z» and «C» ;)

EDIT: My pleasure to help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is my face red! hehehe! :oops: :roll: :?: :?

Sorry about that. Thanks for your efforts with the page. It's working beautifully!

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