Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
Announcing Pappy's Kernel Seeds. <closed, use new thread>
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27  Next  
This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Unsupported Software
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of crazy, I get the crazy, wicked, thrill of getting out the .configs for 2.6.27.38 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors before the source ebuild hits portage! I love it when that happens.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
d2_racing
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 13047
Location: Ste-Foy,Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, go pappy go.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Moriah
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 2117
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Pappy, given that you're only serving 15 MB of text right now, maybe it would be a good idea to implement a replacement for paste-bin right on your own server. 8)
_________________
The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

Foghorn Leghorn is a Warner Bros. cartoon character.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have future plans for the site, but since Pastebin does such a good job (and has bandwidth for said job), I'll not reinvent their wheel. Perhaps when I'm connected to something better than DSL, that might be the time to play with such things.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Moriah
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 2117
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pappy:

I didn't mean paste-bin for the world, I meant just for Pappy's Seeds related stuff.
_________________
The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

Foghorn Leghorn is a Warner Bros. cartoon character.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not quite sure what you mean, then.

BB!
P
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Moriah
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 2117
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, paste-bin is for more than just Pappy's Seeds, isn't it? I meant for you to have all the stuff people pasted for you to analyze already on a box within arms reach, so you wouldn't have to take the time to download it when you needed it, and so you would have control over it.
_________________
The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

Foghorn Leghorn is a Warner Bros. cartoon character.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah...I see what you mean. Have people send all the info directly to my machine. Interesting idea.

This is a cool idea. I am just not sure my web designing skills are up to it. I'd like to avoid drupal, if at all possible.

I've been meaning to see what plone has to offer. Perhaps I'll do that sometime over the weekend, or next week.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
audiodef
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 6313
Location: /usr/lib64/lv2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I don't "do" web dev any more, I'd be happy to help out on this project. It does sound like it would be very useful for both you and everyone using the seeds.
_________________
Gentoo Studio: A Gentoo-based, professional digital audio workstation OS.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
VinzC
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 17 Apr 2004
Posts: 4990
Location: Dark side of the mood

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about an [S]FTP service, simply?
Code:
wput <file> <pappy's ftp URL>

_________________
Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
1739!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
desultory
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Posts: 9221

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something to keep in mind, in practice any site that allows users to post anything is open to some kind of abuse. It may well be easier to just use an existing clipping service instead of trying to run one that is more tailored to your specific needs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is sort of the idea I have about it. I do like the idea, and I'm sure that eventually, I will go for something of that nature. It could be lots of fun.

But as we know, it could also be a pain in the backside. Having ran a BBS back in the day, and knowing some of the ridiculous stuff I've seen from forums far and wide, for the time being I'll leave the running of blogs and other user input sites to those better able to handle an onslaught of unruly users. I want to get some mileage on things. Once I've gained insight and perspective, yes, the idea does hold merit.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Moriah
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 2117
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since we are all linux, and even gentoo, users here, an sshd on your server running on a special(!) port kept in a chroot jail with a single user named config or whatever shoudl suffice. We don't all need to see the results, just you. For providing us with the reply, you could post to a web page whose name was determined when we posted the original. It ought to be much easier than a bbs, as its not for everyone to read. Just some random thoughts... :?b

PS You could even use a little cgi script, or even shttp to a shell script, to provide a random filename, such as "lskdlsdj", and then leave your reply on a web page named "http://www.pappyseeds.com/reply/lskdlsdj.html" for the use to pick up. If he provides an email address, you could notify him when it was ready.

Of course, if you are really brave, you could install php, mysql, and phpbb, and run your own forum, but I agree with you on managing abusive visitors. :(
_________________
The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

Foghorn Leghorn is a Warner Bros. cartoon character.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mysql is already there. I was playing with...er, should I say drupal was kicking my ass from here to somewhere near Austin. Drupal needs mysql. I even had phpmyadmin on that machine for a while. I removed it and drupal when I noticed people were trying to snoop around to see what other directories might be hanging out in the vicinity of the actual site page directory. You know, directories like kernel-seeds.org/mysql and kernel-seeds.org/phpmyadmin. Those things went bye-bye. For the while, plain, boring html does the job well.

The idea of a form does bear merit, though. These are definitely things I'm going to consider as I go forward with the site and the kernel seed concept.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of the kernel seed concept, I've just uploaded the .configs for 2.6.31.5 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. What a concept! :lol:

Enjoy!

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NeddySeagoon
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Posts: 43072
Location: 56N 3W

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its far less trouble for Pappy to download and keep things frpm existing pastebin sites.
Any site open to uploading will be filled with pr0n overnight.

I suppose you could use scp and skeys, so that each key was good only once but requires Paooy to hand out keys.
_________________
Regards,

NeddySeagoon

Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pste
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pappy!
To start with, thank you very much for your work with the seeds. I always consult them to resolv questions with new kernels and settings I dont't know how to set! It's an invaluable source of information, which leads me to my humble suggestion/request.

I'm _not_ suggesting that you should run an entire kernel education site, but I do sense that you possess a lot of valuable insights about pro's and con's of certain strategic strands of settings. If it is possible to briefly describe some of them I'm sure it would be extremely helpful and educative for all of us struggling to understand what we're doing configuring our kernels. That is, what I'm asking for, if it isn't way to much work, is if it would be possible for you to have a page (a link next to your seeds perhaps) explaining some of these strategic choices. To try to come up with some examples to explain what I mean (although I'm not sure these are the best ones...) the following might be usable topics:

* Auditing, grouping, scheduling, things that goes together and what should not
* Markers, probes and debug settings, why/when you would want it, consequences, and what makes sense to combine
* Tickless, HPET, etc, pro's n con's, what settings should be combined and what should not.
* Etc...

Surely, this might quickly become a very complicated task to sort out. Personally I would think any unsorted list of notes whith experiences like: Hmmm, that solved this or should have been used together with that, when I used those, things would be useful...

If it seems unsurmountable - simply disregard and keep up the good work!

/pste
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
d2_racing
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 13047
Location: Ste-Foy,Canada

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact, Pappy, you really need to document all your tweaks, because your kernel seeds are pretty fast if I compare with my kernel config settings !!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is another project that is planned for the near future. I dread that part simply because it's such an enormous task. There are generally anywhere from 2700 lines in the standard .config to over 5000 (for the overbloated, and the genkernel default). And while I wouldn't have to document all those lines, there are still a lot of things to document.

Of course, it could evolve into a book. That would feed my desire to become a published author. This actually sounds like a better idea each time I think about it.

I think sometime this week, I'll grab a random seed, and document it. It will be a work in process kind of thing, but since it has been requested, and I've thought about it, I commit to starting it this week.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
d2_racing
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 13047
Location: Ste-Foy,Canada

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, and if you want you can even use Latex to create a book like in .pdf format.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, yet another project. hehehe.

Blessed be!
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Moriah
Advocate
Advocate


Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Posts: 2117
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latex is GREAT!!! :D

I have been a latex user since 1991. Get yourself Leslie Lamport's "Latex, a document preparation system", and a copy of "The Latex companion" and "The Latex web companion", and you will be all set. All the software is free, and it does a better job of typesetting than anything else out there. Either O'Reilly or New Riders (or whoever bougth them) would be good publishers for such a book.

I recently used Latex (again!) for a whitepaper I wrote as part of a consulting gig. It had a lot of math equations in it, and I shudder to think of doing it in anything other than Latex. 8)
_________________
The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword

Foghorn Leghorn is a Warner Bros. cartoon character.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
d2_racing
Bodhisattva
Bodhisattva


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 13047
Location: Ste-Foy,Canada

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, you can use mediawiki, because it's simple and it's pretty fast when you want to code something.

Gentoo-Quebec wiki use that and it's doing a great job I think.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pappy_mcfae
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 5997
Location: Pomona, California.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first draft is in koffice. I started on it last night...the most preliminary work. Once I get it fleshed a bit, then I'll transfer it to a different format.

BB!
P
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
audiodef
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 6313
Location: /usr/lib64/lv2

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:

Any site open to uploading will be filled with pr0n overnight.


Tell me about it. :roll: If I don't set the password complexity on my own forums to require symbols AND make new users admin-approved, it's all spam. :roll: :roll: :roll:
_________________
Gentoo Studio: A Gentoo-based, professional digital audio workstation OS.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Unsupported Software All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27  Next
Page 23 of 27

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum