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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: 'pegasos' kernel file missing in 2008.0 Reply with quote

My first post, hello everyone
(and sorry for my poor english) :oops:

I own a Genesi's Pegasos2 PPC machine (G4@1GHz) with Gentoo installed since 2004.
Yesterday I've downloaded Gentoo 2008.0 and discovered the missing of kernel file named 'pegasos' on both minimal and universal ISO images.
I did not find previous posts on this, so I imagine that nobody has noticed this fact until now.
You can see in .CONTENTS:
    Gentoo 2007.0
    =============
    Directory listing of /boot/
    d--------- 0 0 0 2048 Apr 27 2007 [ 32 02] .
    d--------- 0 0 0 2048 Apr 23 2007 [ 31 02] ..
    ---------- 0 0 0 612620 Mar 24 2007 [ 26795 00] System.map-pegasos
    ---------- 0 0 0 5438799 Apr 27 2007 [ 21420 00] apple
    ---------- 0 0 0 3212778 Apr 27 2007 [ 24076 00] apple.igz
    ---------- 0 0 0 907 Apr 27 2007 [ 25645 00] boot.msg
    ---------- 0 0 0 1023 Mar 16 2006 [ 25646 00] map.hfs
    ---------- 0 0 0 3009 Apr 22 2007 [ 25647 00] menu
    ---------- 0 0 0 1852 Mar 16 2006 [ 25649 00] ofboot.b
    ---------- 0 0 0 2344369 Mar 24 2007 [ 25650 00] pegasos :!:
    ---------- 0 0 0 145460 Mar 16 2006 [ 27095 00] yaboot
    ---------- 0 0 0 236 Apr 27 2007 [ 27167 00] yaboot.conf

    Gentoo 2008.0
    =============
    Directory listing of /boot/
    d--------- 0 0 0 4096 Jun 30 2008 [ 30 02] .
    d--------- 0 0 0 2048 Mar 10 2008 [ 28 02] ..
    ---------- 0 0 0 11198696 Jun 30 2008 [ 27538 00] G5
    ---------- 0 0 0 3649202 Jun 30 2008 [ 33007 00] G5.igz
    ---------- 0 0 0 2036093 Jun 30 2008 [ 34789 00] System.map-ibmpower
    ---------- 0 0 0 1968055 Jun 30 2008 [ 35784 00] System.map-ppc-.24-gentoo-r3-G
    ---------- 0 0 0 822872 Jun 30 2008 [ 36745 00] System.map-ppc-.24-gentoo-r3-p
    ---------- 0 0 0 901 Jun 30 2008 [ 37147 00] boot.msg
    ---------- 0 0 0 12046468 Jun 30 2008 [ 37148 00] ibmpower
    ---------- 0 0 0 3636235 Jun 30 2008 [ 43031 00] ibmpower.igz
    ---------- 0 0 0 1023 Mar 16 2006 [ 44807 00] map.hfs
    ---------- 0 0 0 3074 Mar 16 2006 [ 44808 00] menu
    ---------- 0 0 0 1852 Mar 16 2006 [ 44810 00] ofboot.b
    ---------- 0 0 0 6079294 Jun 30 2008 [ 44811 00] ppc32
    ---------- 0 0 0 4980369 Jun 30 2008 [ 47780 00] ppc32.igz
    ---------- 0 0 0 145460 Mar 16 2006 [ 50212 00] yaboot
    ---------- 0 0 0 588 Jun 30 2008 [ 50284 00] yaboot.conf

The 2008.0 Handbook says:
"On the Pegasos simply insert the CD and at the SmartFirmware boot-prompt type boot cd /boot/menu. "
where the contents of menu config in 2008.0 are:
Code:
[snip]
  ." Gentoo 2007.0 PowerPC InstallCD" cr
  ." -------------------------------" cr
  ."  " cr
  ." Welcome to the Gentoo Linux 2007.0 PowerPC InstallCD." cr
  ."  " cr
  ." Available options:" cr
  ."  1: Linux 2.6.19 with radeonfb 1024x768 75Hz" cr
  ."  2: Linux 2.6.19 with radeonfb 1024x768 60Hz" cr
  ."  3: Linux 2.6.19 with radeonfb 1280x1024 75Hz" cr
  ."  4: Linux 2.6.19 with radeonfb 800x600 60Hz" cr
  ."  5: Linux 2.6.19 without framebuffer" cr
  ."  6: Back to SmartFirmware" cr
  ."  " cr
  ." For detailed information about this LiveCD, consult the Gentoo Handbook." cr
  ." http://www.gentoo.org/" cr
  ."  " cr
;
: my-boot-case ( num -- )
  ."  " cr
  case
    1 of " cd boot/pegasos console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/image.squashfs cdroot root=/dev/ram0 video=radeonfb:1024x768-16@75 quiet" endof
    2 of " cd boot/pegasos console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/image.squashfs cdroot root=/dev/ram0 video=radeonfb:1024x768-16@60 quiet" endof
    3 of " cd boot/pegasos console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/image.squashfs cdroot root=/dev/ram0 video=radeonfb:1280x1024-16@75 quiet" endof
    4 of " cd boot/pegasos console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/image.squashfs cdroot root=/dev/ram0 video=radeonfb:800x600-16@60 quiet" endof
    5 of " cd boot/pegasos console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/image.squashfs cdroot root=/dev/ram0" endof
    6 of " none" endof
  endcase
  $boot
[snip]

then, as you can easily guess, the menu fails with the error "'pegasos' file not found"

So I have to use 2007.0 but with a drawback:
the kernel 'pegasos' in 2007.0 seems compiled with NOT device mapper support (nor 'modprobe dm-mod' helps)
while I have 4 x lvm2 partitions to mount if I have to perform an 'chroot'

I have no need of immediate aid, I simply point out the fact.
I guess we are a very few users with this HW today but would be fantastic in the next ISO regain our kernel and also properly configured :D

Thanks for your attention.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Installing Gentoo to Gentoo on PPC.
better off here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got same problem. While I guess Pegasos might be merged into the main distribution somehow. There is no indication how you can boot into the Pegasos linux and I had same problem with the boot menu. Even though the documentation indicates this as the main option for the system. From what I understood from searching on the net the portage is also broken on the 2007.0 distrubtion for Pegasos.

So I been looking around on the net to see if I could find David somewhere but all I get is broken net links.

I think the AmigaOS 4 is comming out sooner (and preferably not too late) for Pegasos2,classic amigas with ppc and a newer compact amiga. There have been some talk about it. At the moment I think there is some issues to work out between Amiga Inc and Hyperion. But as so many things in the Amiga marked these days, the prospects are rather unknown. Overall I think the boot stuff could be more clear for a lot of platforms (mac is overspecified, amiga and ps3 could use some more (if ps3 is supported))

It would have been nice to at least be able to count on gentoo. We can always hope they remember to make way for this rare perl called Pegasos in 2009.0 (It is missing from the current portage as well). It might be a question of correcting the menu to refer to another image and updating the Documentation a bit.

SuSE 11 seemed to offer a ppc version for Pegasos (SuSE is unfortunately a bit more static than gentoo).
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried to boot the ppc32 kernel straight from OF? A Pegasos will boot with a vanilla kernel.

It's nice to see there are still some living Peg2 machines. Mine died last fall.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k9dog wrote:


I think the AmigaOS 4 is comming out sooner (and preferably not too late) for Pegasos2,classic amigas with ppc and a newer compact amiga. There have been some talk about it. At the moment I think there is some issues to work out between Amiga Inc and Hyperion. But as so many things in the Amiga marked these days, the prospects are rather unknown. Overall I think the boot stuff could be more clear for a lot of platforms (mac is overspecified, amiga and ps3 could use some more (if ps3 is supported))


who care of amiga?? we live in 2009.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about Macs being over specified, but they still comprise a large number of our users. I don't have a PS3, so writing the PS3 documentation is a bit off my radar at the moment, sorry. If you have any specific suggestions for improving the documentation, I'd be happy to hear it.

As for the Pegasos kernel, I would try the ppc32 kernel and see if that boots. If not, I can help you to prepare a kernel that will boot the machine.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try the ppc kernel thing. Got AmigaOS 4.1 up and running (Nice job Hyperion). I can't predict if the Amiga got a future at all but I still enjoy playing around in linux like Amiga enviroments, so as long as it is here I will spend time on it. I must admit this system feels cleaner than it been in years probably cleanest AmigaOS ever. With a browser that comes with it seems to have everything (maybe except flash) and the system really comes fully packed. Only thing missing is the package with new games really, but I guess most of the games on the net will be playable as long as they are not based on flash.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k9dog wrote:
I will try the ppc kernel thing. Got AmigaOS 4.1 up and running (Nice job Hyperion). I can't predict if the Amiga got a future at all but I still enjoy playing around in linux like Amiga enviroments, so as long as it is here I will spend time on it. I must admit this system feels cleaner than it been in years probably cleanest AmigaOS ever. With a browser that comes with it seems to have everything (maybe except flash) and the system really comes fully packed. Only thing missing is the package with new games really, but I guess most of the games on the net will be playable as long as they are not based on flash.


i think this is spam.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not. The simple story is that the Pegasos was supposed to be a successor to the Amiga that ran an Amiga-like operating system. It caused a split in the Amiga community. Recently, the two camps have made up and AmigaOS can now be run on a Pegasos.

It was also positioned to be a low power consumption G4-based Linux box. It ran Linux quite nicely. My Pegasos ran Gentoo for 2+ years before the CPU died.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, i think it's a spamming instead.

if somebody, here, is looking for a working kernel for his own apple ppc machine (gentoo powered) i'll never reply talking about how beautiful is a closed source and not free os like mac osx....


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