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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had no ati-drivers installed at all. But just to be sure - I removed "ati" from the VIDEO_CARDS and recompiled all the packages I've mentioned in my previous post except gentoo-sources. Same result and the same error in Xorg.0.log :roll: Very strange comparsion... why Xorg thinks that 2.0.0 is less than 1.17.0 ? 8O
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok... disabling mode setting for radeon in kernel solved the problem... Now I have ugly console resolution, but at least I have this:
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OpenGL vendor string: DRI R300 Project                                       
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RS400 5975) 20090101  NO-TCL           
OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 7.7


FINALLY!!! :D
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kms is causing alot of problems alot (causes random freeze).
what was the reason of this feature again?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
kms is causing alot of problems alot (causes random freeze).
what was the reason of this feature again?


* possibility of one common resolution between console and X and/or eliminating the need for resolution switches
* possibility to run X with user instead of root permissions
* enabling dri2 (tear-free and corruption-free compositing)
* enabling efficient powersaving features
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems to work now with 2.6.33-rc4-git2.
The last "working" Kernel (KMS + 3D acc) was 2.6.32-gentoo

(HD 3200 @ Asrock A780GMH/128M)

Code:

OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RS780 9610) 20090101  TCL DRI2
OpenGL version string: 2.0 Mesa 7.8-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.10

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
kms is causing alot of problems alot (causes random freeze).
what was the reason of this feature again?

When we talk of KMS, usually what is meant is a combination of kernel modesetting, a GEM/TTM-based memory manager and DRI2 . You need to do driver stuff in the kernel in order to do:

- Dynamic power saving
- OpenGL > 1.5
- More than one accelerated 3d app at the same time (3d under compiz)

None of these are possible if you do everything out of the kernel. This was broken not only for Radeon, but for all the graphics cards using open source drivers under linux. Other operating systems (and proprietary blobs) have been doing this stuff in the kernel for a long time, and because of this, they have powersaving, OpenGL 3.2 and all sorts of other things. It's just that the X infrastructure was not designed for all this. So a huge redesign of all drivers, Mesa and X itself has been taking place in order to bring X into the 20th century when it comes to 3d drivers. Gallium3d which is coming soon afterwards will bring it into the 21st century :P

Such a huge overhaul will have bumps down the road, but I think that they've done a great job so far, and I haven't had too much trouble.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's it.
I'm using KMS/GEM/TTM for a long time.
First on an MSI nettop (Intel Atom N230).

This was sometimes unstable not only due driver/kernel/x related problems.

The next:
780G mobo with HD 3200 integrated grphics
seems to be stable now but sometimes tricky.

The last:
M3N78-VM with ingegrated GF 8200 graphics card
Works partiall (nouveau), KMS seems to work, but nu 3d acc

Let's see what comes next.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys this "Software Rasterizer" is making me crazyyyyyyyyy

Code:

glxinfo
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project                                           
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer                                   
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.5.2                                         
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20                                 


I turned the world upside down to try to solve it and any time i seem to make sth wrong... My card is Radeon X1400 and:

Code:

[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.15  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r6  USE="-build -symlink" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/mesa-7.5.2  USE="nptl -debug -motif -pic -xcb" VIDEO_CARDS="radeon -intel -mach64 -mga -none -r128 -radeonhd -s3virge -savage -sis (-sunffb) -tdfx -trident -via" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.5-r1  USE="hal ipv6 nptl xorg -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4  USE="-debug" 0 kB

Also :
Code:

Processor type and features --->
<*> MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support
Device drivers --->
   Graphics support --->
   <M> /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) --->
      (The agpgart option is not present on 64-bit kernels; just choose your chipset support.)
      <M> Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 support
      (Enable your chipset instead of the above.)
   <M> Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) --->
      <M> ATI Radeon


Xorg.0.log , glxinfo and xorg.conf I have already here https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6138832.html#6138832
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try adding mesa to your package.use

Either 7.6 or 7.7 should do the trick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you mean /etc/portage/package.keywords

media-libs/mesa-7.7-r1 depends on quite some masked packages like x11-proto/xextproto x11-libs/libdrm eselect-opengl-1.1.1-r2, etc

Is it safe to unmask all of them ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried doing what you proposed but find myself in a very messy situation with blocked packages.
Code:

# emerge -pv mesa

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] x11-proto/xextproto-7.1.1 [7.0.5] 70 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.17 [2.4.15] USE="-debug" 400 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.1.1-r2 [1.0.8-r1] 58 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/mesa-7.7-r1 [7.5.2] USE="nptl xcb* -debug (-gallium) -motif -pic (-selinux)" VIDEO_CARDS="radeon -intel -mach64 -mga -none -nouveau% -r128 -radeonhd -savage -sis (-sunffb) -svga% -tdfx -via (-s3virge%) (-trident%)" 4,884 kB                                                 
[blocks B     ] <x11-libs/libXext-1.0.99 ("<x11-libs/libXext-1.0.99" is blocking x11-proto/xextproto-7.1.1)                                           
[blocks B     ] <x11-base/xorg-server-1.7 ("<x11-base/xorg-server-1.7" is blocking media-libs/mesa-7.7-r1)                                           

Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades), Size of downloads: 5,410 kB
Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)                         

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.                 

  ('ebuild', '/', 'media-libs/mesa-7.7-r1', 'merge') pulled in by
    mesa                                                         

  ('installed', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.5-r1', 'nomerge') pulled in by
    x11-base/xorg-server required by world                                   


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):   

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked



this is when i unmask mesa-7.7-r1, xextproto-7.1.1, libdrm-2.4.17, eselect-opengl-1.1.1-r2
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a drm mismatch.

Try the latest (git) xf86-video-ati from this thread. It recently worked for somebody.

If it doesn't work, add the git libdrm too (drm should match between kernel and userspace, and you're using a very recent kernel).

Mesa should be new enough for your card.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.

I am sorry for the noob question but how exactly can i do that ? :oops:
Or even better is there somewhere info what is git and how i can use it. I really want to catch up with these things to avoid in the future to have to fight for proper graphics support 4 days non-stop...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Git is a version control system, like CVS or SVN, used for collaborative development of software. This is where the latest, unreleased versions of the drivers can be found.

The xf86-video-ati-9999.ebuild posted in the first post of this thread will download and install this for you. That's the beauty of Gentoo.

1) Copy the file into your /usr/local/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/ (create it). If you're cutting and pasting, click on "quote" on the first post and copy from the text box, because HTML formatting will mess up the file
2) Digest it: ebuild xf86-video-ati-9999.ebuild manifest
3) Unmask it by putting x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999 into your /etc/portage/keywords/xf86-video-ati file (create it)
4) emerge -pv xf86-video-ati

I think somebody has recently fixed this exact problem by simply upgrading to the git radeon driver like this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info.

I emerged the new x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-r1 driver but it doesn't seem to fix the problem. glxinfo still shows:
Code:

OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project                                           
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer                                   
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.5.2                                         
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20                                 
OpenGL extensions:


I will post all the relevant information in a sec.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is it:

glxinfo
Xorg.0.log
Xorg.conf
dmesg | grep drm
.config
make.conf

and also:
Code:

[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.15  USE="-debug" 409 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r6  USE="-build -symlink" 60,214 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/mesa-7.5.2  USE="nptl -debug -motif -pic -xcb" VIDEO_CARDS="radeon -intel -mach64 -mga -none -r128 -radeonhd -s3virge -savage -sis (-sunffb) -tdfx -trident -via" 4,285 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.5-r1  USE="hal ipv6 nptl xorg -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib" 4,575 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-r1  USE="-debug" 0 kB


If more info is needed i will be happy to provide it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you quite understood. You need a different ebuild so that version 9999 or the ati driver is built. e.g. x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999

To get this, you either need to download the ebuild file mentioned above, or use layman to add the necessary files.

Code:

emerge -av layman

Following the post ebuild instructions! Then:
Code:

layman -a x11

This will add the ebuild required to use the git repository.

You will also need to unmask it. I use autounmask for this purpose:
Code:

emerge -av autounmask
autounmask x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999

This command unmasks everything required to build the specified version of the package specified.

You can then upgrade!
Code:

emerge -uav x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati


Enjoy!

glxinfo:
Code:

OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 954F) 20090101  TCL DRI2
OpenGL version string: 2.0 Mesa 7.8-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.10

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The layman path is a bit easier, but it will upgrade many things to the latest version (including X). This is not a bad thing, but it may or may not be what you want.

If you only want to upgrade xf86-video-ati, you can follow my instructions. As Herring pointed out, you want to emerge xf86-video-ati-9999, not any previous version. The version you installed is old.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pingufunkybeat wrote:
The layman path is a bit easier, but it will upgrade many things to the latest version (including X). This is not a bad thing, but it may or may not be what you want.


Very true! I'm running bleeding edge X, with a few packages built from the repositories. For me, this works... For you, maybe, maybe not!

e.g.
Code:

media-fonts/font-util-9999
app-arch/xz-utils-9999
x11-libs/libdrm-9999
x11-proto/dri2proto-9999
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999
media-libs/mesa-9999


Just upgrading the ati driver is easier to recover from.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi folks,

Thank you both for the comments. I see what the problem is but I believe i followed the instructions well. Maybe the problem is somewher else... Here is the ebuild from the first post.

Code:

# cat /usr/local/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-ati-9999.ebuild

# Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation                                                             
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2                                   
# $Header:                                                                                           
# /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-ati-6.6.192.ebuild,v                 
# 1.1 2007/05/21 05:25:33 dberkholz Exp $                                                           

# Must be before x-modular eclass is inherited
#SNAPSHOT="yes"                               

inherit x-modular

DESCRIPTION="ATI video driver"
KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~ia64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd"
SRC_URI=""
IUSE="dri"

RDEPEND=">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.2"
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
        >=x11-misc/util-macros-1.1.3
                x11-proto/fontsproto
        x11-proto/randrproto
        x11-proto/videoproto
        x11-proto/xextproto
        x11-proto/xineramaproto
        x11-proto/xf86miscproto
        x11-proto/xproto
        dri? ( x11-proto/glproto
                                x11-proto/xf86driproto
                                >=x11-libs/libdrm-2 )"

CONFIGURE_OPTIONS="$(use_enable dri)"


Then i digested it and got this " Manifest " file
Code:

# ebuild xf86-video-ati-9999.ebuild manifest
Appending /usr/local/portage to PORTDIR_OVERLAY...
>>> Creating Manifest for /usr/local/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati

# cat Manifest
EBUILD xf86-video-ati-9999.ebuild 1014 RMD160 8cbe6d0a9d577782df3833dc398c2d4e655a7025 SHA1 55ffe5efc1562f6e3b9ab345198a6528077343e8 SHA256 72b2e4bbfe65fc122ea2c9f0e67319f7287a90f31e5b20aacc4369218b0bd73c


and put xf86-video-ati in /etc/portage/keywords dir which didn't exits at that time...
Code:

# cat /etc/portage/keywords/xf86-video-ati
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999

and this is what i got :
Code:

emerge -pv xf86-video-ati

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-r1  USE="-debug" 0 kB


Did i do something wrong ?

I will try Herring42 way using layman and will post the results.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saiko wrote:

and put xf86-video-ati in /etc/portage/keywords dir which didn't exits at that time...
Code:

# cat /etc/portage/keywords/xf86-video-ati
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999

and this is what i got :
Code:

emerge -pv xf86-video-ati

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-r1  USE="-debug" 0 kB


Did i do something wrong ?

I believe that -9999 ebuilds are masked by default, so you need to add the package to /etc/portage/package.unmask/
Oh, and it is packages.keywords not keywords.

Using autounmask does all the for you, its very handy. :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No... The problem doesn't seem to be in the unmasking but i have screwed something up with the digesting...
It cannot find my ebuild
Code:

autounmask x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-9999

 autounmask version 0.27 (using PortageXS-0.02.09 and portage-2.1.6.13)

 * Using repository: /usr/portage

 * The given category/package-version does not seem to exist. Listing existing versions:

 * gentoo (/usr/portage):
     x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.1-r1
     x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-r1
     x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4

 * Please pick one of the versions given above and try again.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saiko wrote:
No... The problem doesn't seem to be in the unmasking but i have screwed something up with the digesting...
It cannot find my ebuild


Did you set the PORTDIR_OVERLAY variable in /etc/make.conf?
Code:

PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Code:

# emerge -pv xf86-video-ati

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N    ] perl-core/digest-base-1.16  9 kB [0]
[ebuild     U ] perl-core/Package-Constants-0.02 [0.01] 3 kB [0]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glxinfo still says Software Rasterising. :?

Nevertheless now Xorg.0.log is with no mismatches and feel much more like it should . So that's good. Only this software rasterizing...

glxinfo is still at 170 FPS

Here is Xorg.0.log
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