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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rezza, using kde? cause kde has a fake root window which prevents these thigns from working too well :(

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll have the same issue with Gnome if Nautilus desktop is enabled.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a tip to make it more "realistic":

remember to use RIDICULOUSLY LARGE FONTS for all dialog windows.
Also, remember to use two-by-four sized status bars.

On login screens, ACCESS DENIED must be in large red flashing letters, and can be circumvented by typing in "override" or "upload bypass" somewhere.

Here are some more suggestions.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tukem wrote:
Why this topic is in "Documentation, Tips & Tricks"?


every post looks like a tip to me :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garbz wrote:
tukem wrote:
Why this topic is in "Documentation, Tips & Tricks"?


every post looks like a tip to me :roll:


from dictionay.com:

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trick, n. :
1. An act or procedure intended to achieve an end by deceptive or fraudulent means. See Synonyms at wile.
2. A mischievous action; a prank.
3. A stupid, disgraceful, or childish act or performance.
4a. A peculiar trait or characteristic; a mannerism:
4b. A peculiar event with unexpected, often deceptive results:
4c. A deceptive or illusive appearance; an illusion:
4d. A special skill; a knack
4e. A convention or specialized skill peculiar to a particular field of activity
5. A feat of magic or legerdemain.
6. A difficult, dexterous, or clever act designed to amuse.


Most of these apply to the topic, don't you think :)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess if one looks up the dictionary definition for "trick" this is the correct place. I would however like to keep this area clean from these relatively useless projects so that "Documentation, tips & trics" would contain useful information (docs and tips).

Finding useful information from the forums is already a pain so it would be great if one area contained only really useful stuff. This is by no means the only topic that doesn't have very much information. A topic about don't do "emerge -C python" is a good example. It doesn't really require much brains to know this without somebody telling it.

But all this is oftopic so I'll just shut up and let the big boys handle this.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded all the trailers( including the 4 animatrix movies), from the matrix website and use xine to display them on the root window. It is the coolest thing in the WORLD!!!!!!!!! It barely even uses any resources, except when the movie changes.

I turned off the sound after the first 2 hours though. It was interfering with my audio stream.

COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rezza, using kde? cause kde has a fake root window which prevents these thigns from working too well :(

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Yep... Does anybody have a way of doing it? I just love KDE too much to give it up for this reason...

BTW, this thread is an excellent idea. If you don't like it, don't read it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok fellas, here's the latest screenshot from me. :) Messy and everything, but hey, that's the case in movie screens, too.

http://jaba.mbnet.fi/pictures/movie_theme_030907.jpg

I know this may not be the most useful thread around, but I think that many of eye-candy tips presented here can be used in normal desktop use too, and then it suddenly can be useful... at least I use a bit of eye-candy whenever I'm converting someone from Windows to Linux. :-)

Edit: Whoops, forgot to mention that the blue rectangle in bottom left corner is supposed to be mplayer playing The Matrix trailer, but screenshotting it seems to be tricky. How to take screenshots from mplayer, anyone?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a similar desktop with the earth on the background, Police skin for gkrellm and I advise gdesklets which is beautiful eyecandy. :-D Try it and love it!

Oh, and I don't like the 3d win manager.. not very useful.

Janne Pikkarainen wrote:
Ok fellas, here's the latest screenshot from me. :) Messy and everything, but hey, that's the case in movie screens, too.

http://jaba.mbnet.fi/pictures/movie_theme_030907.jpg

I know this may not be the most useful thread around, but I think that many of eye-candy tips presented here can be used in normal desktop use too, and then it suddenly can be useful... at least I use a bit of eye-candy whenever I'm converting someone from Windows to Linux. :-)

Edit: Whoops, forgot to mention that the blue rectangle in bottom left corner is supposed to be mplayer playing The Matrix trailer, but screenshotting it seems to be tricky. How to take screenshots from mplayer, anyone?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmatos wrote:
I have a similar desktop with the earth on the background, Police skin for gkrellm and I advise gdesklets which is beautiful eyecandy. :-D Try it and love it!


Ok, will try gdesklets. :)

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Oh, and I don't like the 3d win manager.. not very useful.


Granted, it's not very useful, but that kind of thing was used in Jurassic Park 1 so that's why it's included in my screenshots.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not too fussed about having a movie like desktop, I like my desktop to like like this:

http://basic-rip.co.uk/tenpin/tenpin-desktop-4.png

BUT, I would like my login screen to look like they do in the movies. I boot up to the console, login then run startx so I don't want to modify XDM/KDM/GDM but I would like a funky console login.

When I have an overwhelming abundance of free time I intend to rewrite the login program to do something funky but in the meantime does anyone know of anything already available ?

I was thinking of something along the lines of Matrixesque ascii art/animation or even centered text that appears 1 character at a time as it does in many films.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find CDE window decorations and Motif widget style to be more movie-like...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TenPin wrote:

BUT, I would like my login screen to look like they do in the movies. I boot up to the console, login then run startx so I don't want to modify XDM/KDM/GDM but I would like a funky console login.

When I have an overwhelming abundance of free time I intend to rewrite the login program to do something funky but in the meantime does anyone know of anything already available ?

I was thinking of something along the lines of Matrixesque ascii art/animation or even centered text that appears 1 character at a time as it does in many films.


Try using the framebuffer with splash. It makes your console very cool. It doesn't work with the 2.5 or 2.6 series kernels yet though. :(

how-to https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=49036&highlight=framebuffer+splash

support https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=52290&highlight=framebuffer+splash

There are so many apps available that work with framebuffer I sometimes don't even bother starting X.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proxy wrote:
rezza, using kde? cause kde has a fake root window which prevents these thigns from working too well :(

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You can do this...

K--- Pref s----Look & Feel ----Desktop ---- Behaviour --- Programs in desktop window

Though I haven't got mplayer to work yet using --rootwin, and windows tent to "scrub" away the screensaver on the background, which rather ruins the effect of many screensavers.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok has anyone seen "The Italian Job" Now Seph Green had a Dell Latitude there with an interface which really looked the part.

Black measurements on the left hand side and right hand side. Now asside from the actuall structual details of the house and the fact that everytime he logged into a different computer the interface still looked the same, the deskotp itself seems workable.

I could imagine rather than numbers having gkrellm scaleing the entire length of the left wall. And on the right have the menu / panel / dockapps all with a back / marone interface. In the middle have an awesom looking terminal.

I think it would be best to use afterstep or a step derrivative for that, but fluxbox might work too depending on how the slit can be worked on the right hand side.

Once i get some free time i'll invest into working an interface like that. But it should be really easy to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: Oops. I hit reply before noticing that there was a 2nd page. :oops:


PS: Hey, has anyone made 3dwm work? All I get is

Code:

ExpatParser.cc: In constructor `ExpatParser::ExpatParser()':
ExpatParser.cc:66: invalid conversion from `void*' to `XML_ParserStruct*'
ExpatParser.cc: In destructor `virtual ExpatParser::~ExpatParser()':
ExpatParser.cc:72: invalid conversion from `void*' to `XML_ParserStruct*'


Over and over again...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

considering the current state of 3dwm (as far as i know it's far from incomplete / stable) i'm not surprised at the errors.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, try entrance as login manager, the matrix-theme looks realy cool

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge x11-misc/entrance
edit your /etc/rc.conf, set DISPLAYMANAGER to entrance
and start xdm
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rezza, using kde? cause kde has a fake root window which prevents these thigns from working too well :(

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You can do this...

K--- Pref s----Look & Feel ----Desktop ---- Behaviour --- Programs in desktop window

Though I haven't got mplayer to work yet using --rootwin, and windows tent to "scrub" away the screensaver on the background, which rather ruins the effect of many screensavers.


Actually, I'm using Gnome 2.4... anyone know how to stop nautilus from hogging drawing the desktop? i'd love to be able to run stuff like screensavers and movies as my background...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, I'm using Gnome 2.4... anyone know how to stop nautilus from hogging drawing the desktop? i'd love to be able to run stuff like screensavers and movies as my background...



use gconf editor(gnome-panel>applications>system tools>configuration editor) and turn off the following keys: "/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop", "/desktop/gnome/background/draw_background". If you start Nautilus from the commad-line make sure to use "nautilus --no-desktop".
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, curtis119 :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rezza, using kde? cause kde has a fake root window which prevents these thigns from working too well :(

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You can do this...

K--- Pref s----Look & Feel ----Desktop ---- Behaviour --- Programs in desktop window

Though I haven't got mplayer to work yet using --rootwin, and windows tent to "scrub" away the screensaver on the background, which rather ruins the effect of many screensavers.


I couldn't make this to work either, other programs work in the background, like xplanet.
This is what I did: First, in the control pannel I went to desktop and clicked on "programs on desktop window", then I went to background in themes & appearance -> background in the KDE control pannel, then I set "Mode" to background program, and there I added a new program and under command I added the following line:
mplayer -rootwin -vo xv /path/to/movies/animatrix.avi

When I click accept, I start hearing the sound of the movie but I see no video, so, I dont know. Is that command ok?, I think this way it should work.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ranmakun,

I haven't used KDE in a while(about 9 months) but I -believe- that you need to remove the --rootwin option from mplayer. KDE sets that option for you when you set "Mode" to background program. Try it and see if that works.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curtis119, that didn't work, since I get a video in full screen; but, I discovered that if I kill kdesktop it works, so it's kdesktop that is bothering. The problem it that I get no icons in the desktop or wallpaper :?
I was thinking in something like a movie in a corner that ocupies 1/4th of the screen and have my icons in the rest of the desktop. Maybe it's not possible. :cry:
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