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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Need help installing Linux on my Mac G4 Reply with quote

I have a quicksilver model G4 and need help installing any kind of Linux distribution on it. The problem is I only have DVD-RW's and it doesn't read those. It's going to be another couple days before I go out shopping again, so does anyone know of a way to install Linux on a Mac that doesn't involve CD's?

I have a VM that can service Macintosh's over the network. If I start up the VM, set the network up correctly, etc etc etc, I can make the Macintosh "Netboot" (which is pretty much PXE) which loads NetRestore and that is used to reimage the Mac. Can it be possible to load a distribution's install media over the network using that?

Any help will be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

netbooting and installing in a chroot will surely work
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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netbooting and installing in a chroot will surely work

Do you know how to get the Mac to load the correct files through Netboot? The VM is using Ubuntu 9.10 with DHCP/TFTP/NFS.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't boot any livecd's using a usb thumb drive?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can't boot any livecd's using a usb thumb drive?

As far as I know, you can't. Even if it could, I lost my thumb drive :(
I'm not really a Mac expert, I got it for development on Linux.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

USB thumb drive would be best for me if your hardware supports it (I thought most did nowadays?)

I haven't done an install with an actual CD or DVD in years.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your G4 can boot from the optical disk that came with it. Hold down the 'c' key while doing a cold boot.

If you are using the wrong kind of disks for your optical drive, don't do that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your G4 can boot from the optical disk that came with it. Hold down the 'c' key while doing a cold boot.

If you are using the wrong kind of disks for your optical drive, don't do that.
mmhm... and given the way you're talking, I assume you already knew this, but just in case - make sure you have ppc discs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do G4 macs even have USB 2?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do G4 macs even have USB 2?


Good question. I don't even know if my old B&W Japanese G3 has USB2.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I'm pretty sure they don't.

At that time, Apple was still pushing Firewire (IEEE-1394) to be what USB-2 became.

But I don't understand his problem. All he needs to do is burn a CD and boot from that. Or, if he lives on a planet where there are no CD burners, he could send away for one.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he only found the DVD.iso?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe he only found the DVD.iso?

That's why I provided a link to the CD iso.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe he only found the DVD.iso?

That's why I provided a link to the CD iso.


You did? :?:
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chopinzee wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
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Maybe he only found the DVD.iso?

That's why I provided a link to the CD iso.


You did? :?:

I thought I did. I guess I deleted that. :?

Here it is: install-powerpc-minimal-20091018.iso
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesn't have any blank CDs...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drizek wrote:
He doesn't have any blank CDs...


Weird, I haven't had that problem since the late 90s.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drizek wrote:
He doesn't have any blank CDs...

:roll:

And he's in an iron lung and can't get one? Then send away to Ubuntu for a free CD.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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drizek wrote:
He doesn't have any blank CDs...


Weird, I haven't had that problem since the late 90s.

Don't brag. Those G4s were awesome machines.

When did PC's finally stop coming with a floppy drive (because they fucking needed one)? :lol:

Why is it you can only have four "primary" paritions on a PC? :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Chopinzee wrote:
drizek wrote:
He doesn't have any blank CDs...


Weird, I haven't had that problem since the late 90s.

Don't brag. Those G4s were awesome machines.

When did PC's finally stop coming with a floppy drive (because they fucking needed one)? :lol:

Why is it you can only have four "primary" paritions on a PC? :lol:


No no, my wife's a mac user. I meant that I haven't ran out of blank CDs in a long, long time.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chopinzee wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
Chopinzee wrote:
drizek wrote:
He doesn't have any blank CDs...


Weird, I haven't had that problem since the late 90s.

Don't brag. Those G4s were awesome machines.

When did PC's finally stop coming with a floppy drive (because they fucking needed one)? :lol:

Why is it you can only have four "primary" paritions on a PC? :lol:


No no, my wife's a mac user. I meant that I haven't ran out of blank CDs in a long, long time.

Oh. :lol:

I thought you meant you haven't burned a CD since then.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ta for the clarification. I was trying to figure out where that response came from and nothing was making sense :D
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chopinzee wrote:
ta for the clarification. I was trying to figure out where that response came from and nothing was making sense :D

Sorry about that.
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BoneKracker wrote:
Chopinzee wrote:
ta for the clarification. I was trying to figure out where that response came from and nothing was making sense :D

Sorry about that.


All is sorted now, it was just one angle that I hadn't considered.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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