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Shining Arcanine
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Upstream Systemd Status Update Reply with quote

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-update.html
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html

Reading all of this has made me very excited about systemd. Does anyone know if it is mature enough to replace Gentoo's traditional init system?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried it last month, didn't manage to actually get it to boot probably.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd

Have you tried this tutorial ?

Yeah, I am interested too... :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrix_neo wrote:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd

Have you tried this tutorial ?

Yeah, I am interested too... :lol:


I have not tried it. I do not have any virtual machines configured for such experiments at this time and I do not want to experiment on production systems without some assurance that it will work.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject: I've tried the tutorial, but wasn't successful until now... Reply with quote

Hi Geeks,
if you are interested in, why you didn't try it :wink:

I spent some hours to give it a try, but it's not working for me until now. Here are my experiance with it, and what's diffent for me, regarding the wiki:

/etc/portage/package.keywords is a directory on my machine, so the commands are different for this kind of situation.
Don't know what's simplest way to add the entries to the keyword directory, i did it in this way, for every mentioned package:
Code:
touch vala /etc/portage/package.keywords/ && echo dev-lang/vala >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/vala


The example for editing the grub.conf only mentioned the variant for using a genkernel / initrd, but afaik for using a kernel without initrd you have to add:
Code:
init=/bin/systemd
instead
Code:
real_init=/bin/systemd


The difference with it is: if i boot my kernel without initrd with the real_init=/bin/systemd line, it boots normal, without using Systemd,
if i boot it with init=/bin/systemd, the kernel.init stops with this error:
Code:
Failed to mount /sys/fs/cgroup: No such file or directory

I guess i've done my kernel.config in the right way, the packages compiled fine, so i don't know how to trace the fault now.
If i boot without the init=/bin/systemd, and enter systemctl, i get:
Code:
Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Connection refused

If i enter systemd --test --system, i get:
Code:
Failed to mount /sys/fs/cgroup: No such file or directory


So, how to go on, any ideas, other experiances with it?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding /sys/fs/cgroup, you should look at this commit. Basically you need a kernel patch to create this directory.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I've tried the tutorial, but wasn't successful until now Reply with quote

Randy Andy wrote:

Code:
Failed to mount /sys/fs/cgroup: No such file or directory

I guess i've done my kernel.config in the right way, the packages compiled fine, so i don't know how to trace the fault now.


Actually, you need to add a patch to the kernel ... I'm not sure which one though:
Lennart (in comments) wrote:
I plan to roll D-Bus 1.4.0 by the end of this week. However I also plan to add a dependency on very new kernels to systemd, to make sure we can move the cgroup fs mount point to /sys. This means you have to either run an unreleased kernel or backport one patch to your older kernels, as we did in Fedora. So, basically by the end of this week the dependency on one unreleased package will go away, but we'll add another one instead. Sorry for that, but I don't think it would be wise to support the old cgroupfs mount point for longer, to make sure users don't get confused by that unnecessarily.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Folks,

thank you for the hints,
i'll try it when i got some extra time.

Now i know how how to go on.

Best regards, Andy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't get display manager to start. i mean xdm

anybody?
thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i can't get display manager to start. i mean xdm


same for me, everything else apparently works quite well but im not sure about what to do to get the dm to start.

TIA !
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any updates ?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't get my display manager to start, too...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've updated systemd-9999. And now I get "unit xdm.service is masked" when trying to start X (systemctl start xdm) and "unit killall.service failed to load: invalid argument" when I type "reboot" or press ctrl+alt+del... :(
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