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Loko123
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: kde-9999 Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I will become an official KDE SC Tester (Bug Reporter) and I'll apply some patches. But I don't know where to start. I found in the Gentoo KDE 4 Guide (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml) that there exist an overlay named kde, which provides some packages for KDE live (9999).

Is it safe to use kde-live ebuilds, or am I going to run into some problems?

Maybe some KDE-9999 Testers could also poste their recommendation and experience which they've made.

Kindly regards,

Loko123
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: kde-9999 Reply with quote

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I will become an official KDE SC Tester (Bug Reporter)


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Is it safe to use kde-live ebuilds, or am I going to run into some problems?


I mean absolutely no disrespect in saying this, but these two are mutually exclusive.
Using live ebuilds like this isn't really supposed to be "safe", part of the purpose of them, and of testers, is to find broken things - some of which may render your KDE completely unusable, or even hose other parts of your system - and of course report them. You are supposed to run into problems, and even create problems (normally for something like QA, your job is specifically "try to break shit", because that's how devs find and fix bugs)

If you are happy to deal with the possibility that your KDE might remain non-functional for extended periods (not saying it will, just that it IS certainly possible), and you have a backup DE or WM available that you're happy to use while waiting for a KDE bug to be resolved, please do run the live builds, I am sure the testing and bug reports will be appreciated. You should also familiarize yourself with some of the basics of writing ebuilds, specifically ones that use kde-specific classes, as well familiarize yourself with standard practice for reporting bugs.

Again, this isn't all to discourage you or offend, so please don't take it as such, but for real proper testing, shit breaks, and stays broken - you should not depend on live ebuilds for your production desktop environment. If this is unacceptable down time for you, or you don't wish to have a backup DE, I would suggest simply going full ~arch (which is much more likely to be stable), and report bugs as you find them (search first, of course!)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loko123

i have been using kde:live for 2 years now.it is time killing :lol: and at this moment pykde4-9999 is the
only one that do not work for me.i am using kdebase-startkde.kdelibs needs the semantic-desktop flag
and when the pykde4 comes,i emerge -avO the rest.i belive this is not a good thing to do but it works :roll:

good luck
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: kde-9999 Reply with quote

cach0rr0 wrote:
Quote:

I will become an official KDE SC Tester (Bug Reporter)


Quote:

Is it safe to use kde-live ebuilds, or am I going to run into some problems?


I mean absolutely no disrespect in saying this, but these two are mutually exclusive.
Using live ebuilds like this isn't really supposed to be "safe", part of the purpose of them, and of testers, is to find broken things - some of which may render your KDE completely unusable, or even hose other parts of your system - and of course report them. You are supposed to run into problems, and even create problems (normally for something like QA, your job is specifically "try to break shit", because that's how devs find and fix bugs)

If you are happy to deal with the possibility that your KDE might remain non-functional for extended periods (not saying it will, just that it IS certainly possible), and you have a backup DE or WM available that you're happy to use while waiting for a KDE bug to be resolved, please do run the live builds, I am sure the testing and bug reports will be appreciated. You should also familiarize yourself with some of the basics of writing ebuilds, specifically ones that use kde-specific classes, as well familiarize yourself with standard practice for reporting bugs.

Again, this isn't all to discourage you or offend, so please don't take it as such, but for real proper testing, shit breaks, and stays broken - you should not depend on live ebuilds for your production desktop environment. If this is unacceptable down time for you, or you don't wish to have a backup DE, I would suggest simply going full ~arch (which is much more likely to be stable), and report bugs as you find them (search first, of course!)


Thank you for your answer. Yeah I know, that live ebuilds are extremely dangerous and shouldn't been running on any productive system. But I've got a new laptop (Which is for testing purpose) so it's no problem for me. At my desktop I'm using kde 4.6.1 - this is my productive system.

I've got a little experience in writing ebuilds, and adding patches. (But writing patches is another story... This is an absolute virgin soil, if you know what I mean).

So, I'm going to add the kde overlay and will reply my experience as soon as possible.

Best wishes and have a great day,

Loko123

EDIT: Hehe! :-D "report bugs as you find them (search first, of course!)" I think this quote should become a sticky thread ;-). Thats the tip of the day! :)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hedmo wrote:
Loko123

i have been using kde:live for 2 years now.it is time killing :lol: and at this moment pykde4-9999 is the
only one that do not work for me.i am using kdebase-startkde.kdelibs needs the semantic-desktop flag
and when the pykde4 comes,i emerge -avO the rest.i belive this is not a good thing to do but it works :roll:

good luck


Hey hedmo,

Thank you for sharing your experience with me. I'm going to emerge @kdebase-meta and if I need any other meta-package, I'm going to emerge it too. I'll reply as soon as possible. I think the problem with pykde4 is also reported upstream (at kde bugtracker) and should be fixed soon. If I find a solution, I will not hesitate to contact you.

Have a great day,

Loko123
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