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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:42 am    Post subject: GNOME 3.2 is now in Gentoo's gnome overlay (master branch) Reply with quote

GNOME 3.2, released 2 days ago, is now available in the master branch of Gentoo's gnome overlay.

Hopefully any major problems will soon be found and patched (here is where you can help by testing and filing bug reports), so that 3.2 could be moved to the main portage tree some time in the observable future.

If you were using GNOME 3.2 prereleases from the experimental gnome-next branch of the overlay, make sure you switch to the master branch now. The gnome-next branch will no longer receive updates, at least not unless the Gentoo gnome team again gets into a situation where two different versions of gnome have to be maintained in one overlay.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Desktop Environments to Unsupported Software. Not yet in the main tree so it fits better here.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I updated to Gnome 3.2, but lost all the icons in Activity and Applications.

I tested with a new user, and still the same.

Any suggestion what should I check?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisyu wrote:
I updated to Gnome 3.2, but lost all the icons in Activity and Applications.

Just a sanity check: after updating to 3.2, did you log out and then log back in?

There was a bug about different icons being cached to the same opengl texture, it should be fixed in gnome-shell-3.2.0-r1.
Generally speaking, if application icons disappear, the first suspect is gnome-menus. Check that you have the latest version.

Another thing to look at: are there errors about images failing to load printed if you try to run various gtk applications from a terminal? Did some icons and images disappear in other places? If so, something may be wrong with the gdk-pixbuf loader cache. There was a known bug where emerging gdk-pixbuf on a machine with masked nvidia-drivers could delete the contents of the cache. This should have been fixed earlier today, so if this is the cause of the problem, emerge sync and re-emerge gdk-pixbuf.

Finally, look at the logs. Gnome shell logs errors for the current session in ~/.xsession-errors, you may find some clues in there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a package.keyword list for it? Does one need such a list?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keet wrote:
Do you have a package.keyword list for it?

Yes, status/portage-configs/package.keywords.gnome3 inside the overlay directory (/var/lib/layman/gnome/status/portage-configs/package.keywords.gnome3 if you are using a recent install of layman).
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Does one need such a list?

If you have ~amd64 or ~x86 in KEYWORDS, then you do not need the keywords list file.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since gome 3.0.x was usable with the proprietary nvidia-driver you should write a big sign here, that gnome-3.2 is actual not compatible with the proprietary nvidia drivers.

Hope this will fixed soon. I will not use the open source driver, through there is no hardware acceleration for flash or movies...
So i will just wait for a fix and use fluxbox instead..

Regards

Chris

p.s.: it is impossible that the gnome-tream released a hardware accelerated desktop without support for proprietary nvidia or amd chipsets.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using gnome-3.2 with proprietary nvidia drivers :D

Have been using it with proprietary nvidia drivers for around 3 months, in fact.

The two combinations that work well are nvidia-drivers-275.09.07 + xorg-server-1.10.4 or nvidia-drivers-285.05.09 + xorg-server-1.10.4. Nvidia drivers are currently semi-broken on xorg-server-1.11.x, and driver versions other than 275.09.07 and 285.05.09 have bugs that break gnome-3.2 (e.g by making it impossible to log in or out).

One issue that you might have hit was crashes in gdm-3.2.0 with nvidia-drivers-285.05.09. This was fixed today by gdm-3.2.0-r1.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tetromino wrote:
chrisyu wrote:
I updated to Gnome 3.2, but lost all the icons in Activity and Applications.

Just a sanity check: after updating to 3.2, did you log out and then log back in?

There was a bug about different icons being cached to the same opengl texture, it should be fixed in gnome-shell-3.2.0-r1.
Generally speaking, if application icons disappear, the first suspect is gnome-menus. Check that you have the latest version.

Another thing to look at: are there errors about images failing to load printed if you try to run various gtk applications from a terminal? Did some icons and images disappear in other places? If so, something may be wrong with the gdk-pixbuf loader cache. There was a known bug where emerging gdk-pixbuf on a machine with masked nvidia-drivers could delete the contents of the cache. This should have been fixed earlier today, so if this is the cause of the problem, emerge sync and re-emerge gdk-pixbuf.

Finally, look at the logs. Gnome shell logs errors for the current session in ~/.xsession-errors, you may find some clues in there.


I upgraded nvidia-drivers to 285.05.09, with xorg-server 1.11.1, I could startx and log out(didn't work earlier) from gnome now.
All gnome 3.2 related software are updated to newest version.

But gdm gives me a black screen and a busy mouse pointer, so I put "exec ck-launch-session gnome-session" in .xinitrc, and startx works.
Still no icons, I have to start gnome-terminal by nautilus script.

I'll try nvidia-drivers-285.05.09 + xorg-server-1.10.4 later, see if it's a nvidia drivers problem.

Thank you for your help.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: GNOME 3.2 is now in Gentoo's gnome overlay (master branc Reply with quote

tetromino wrote:
GNOME 3.2, released 2 days ago, is now available in the master branch of Gentoo's gnome overlay.

Hopefully any major problems will soon be found and patched (here is where you can help by testing and filing bug reports), so that 3.2 could be moved to the main portage tree some time in the observable future.

If you were using GNOME 3.2 prereleases from the experimental gnome-next branch of the overlay, make sure you switch to the master branch now. The gnome-next branch will no longer receive updates, at least not unless the Gentoo gnome team again gets into a situation where two different versions of gnome have to be maintained in one overlay.


It would be interesting so see some kind of write-up regarding the Gnome 3.2 state in the overlay, perhaps on gentoo.org? I know one of the maintainers did a very good post half a year ago, just stating "We will not pull it in until a few point releases down the road". I think that kind of info (though tiny) is awesome, since then we know Gentoo's standpoint on the subject.

Seems like "you guys" (you incredible and very lovable developers!) has come to a point where you are feeling that 3.2 is heading for the main tree, so perhaps a little note on gentoo.org about it?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changes gnome 3.0 -> 3.2

- gnome-shell still has 5%cpu (top) if idle
- if i use e.g. xbmc the gnome-shell still "eats" my cpu
- gnome-fallback has a new bug, the font-color of the clock makes it unreadable
- gnome-shell/mutter detection fails and gnome-fallback starts on new and older radeon-hardware, but its works if I start mutter/gnome-shell manually - so a bug?
- gdm with USE gnome-shell doesn't start on older hardware

either way, concerning usability, I like gnome-fallback better than gnome-shell, but gnome-extensions then not working of course.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will the gnome package start using the new "package sets" functionality for portage, as it been described that KDE the gentoo guide is doing? I've always found that it's a pain excluding the monolithic evolution package, and this would be a good way to sort this out ... I've found that gnome-lite is missing some of the useful utilities.
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