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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:06 pm    Post subject: Mac OS in a VM, host is ANY linux running on mac hardware. Reply with quote

Hi.

I have a Mac. I'm contemplating an install of ANY linux, preferably Gentoo. But I still want to run Mac OS X in a VM.

Legally speaking:

  1. Mac OS X has a terms of use clause stating that you can't run Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware.
  2. This will be Mac OS on real Mac hardware, but with a Linux hypervisor in the middle.
  3. If the existing OS won't work in the VM, I'll buy another license. That's not a problem for me in any way, except if it doesn't work.


So I want to know if somebody has done it and how well it works.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run only Linux in a Mac Pro right now. Some things related to your post:

  • Apple can say lot of things, you paid for the software/hardware, trying to force you to use it only in the way they want... Well, it's a personal choice. As I said, I've a Mac and bought it because of the quality of the hardware, but next one will be probably a Lenovo :)
  • The process of installing and optimizing for Mac it's not really difficult. You will encounter yourself wasting some time optimizing things like the trackpad and such. Maybe the most difficult part, until you know how to do it, it's the EFI booting, but I really recommend it because it can save lots of time when booting (and you paid a hardware to fully use it). Just remember that with Grub2 you don't need a partition for EFI and another for Grub2, just one with around 250 to 500 MB (Depends on the quantity of kernels). Anyway if you go Linux only you can search about booting directly from the Apple Loader.
  • It will work, just search around google or ask here.


If you need more help I gladly will help you.

P.D. More info about the second point, the worst part actually is running the GPU Switching with Optimus/Optirun, but people are doing really good improvements, just watch the Bumbleebee project and such.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input. It's still a thinking project, not sure if I'm going to do it.

Does Linux handle the 3 and 4 finger gestures on the track pad?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

by "linux" i think you mean synaptics....

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Synaptics

my guess from the results on google is yes....

https://www.google.com/#q=synaptics+4+finger+gestures

looking in my machine i only had up to 2 finger gestures, googles talking about 10 finger gestures?!?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I gotta say, Apple's trackpad 3- and 4-finger gestures is really addictive. I might try to bind an apple track pad to a linux box and see what I can come up with. It's the first time I've ever preferred a trackpad to a mouse.

The 10-finger thing: I saw a 5-finger gesture in the video, no more.

Anyway, I need to figure out better search terms. I thought that Apple had a legal patent on multitouch track pads, but evidently it's not true or maybe just not stopping people.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have been trying the synaptics drivers, mutouch ones, mtrack.... more than three fingers and candy/useful tricks (pinch, swipe, etc..) it's a thing in my ToDo list along with the nVidia/Intel switch on fly. The driver I'm currently using is the mtrack one, as I feel it more responsive, but I think more testing is needed before finally picking a choice.

I recommend to you to read the MacTel docs in Ubuntu and the Arch wiki along with the Gentoo ones. Also, the Rod Smith's site is full of information, it's an essential part if you want to configure the bootloader correctly, at least for me.

Another thing you should configure properly it's the ACPI rules, some people say battery last less in Linux than OS X, but I didn't came to same conclusion. As said earlier, try and fight with the acpi rules. One thing I really like about Gentoo it's the freedom you have to configure and optimize every tiny part of the system.

My biggest recommendation would be: Install it along OSX, set apart some time to play with the configs and the system, once you have it configured decide if you want to go back or not. If you go back at least you learnt a lot about your machine.
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